Please Squeenix, implement blind bids on the markets...

[Starplayer]

So the problem is capitalism?

lol let's not turn this into a political debate. Just need some adjustments to make the buying/selling part of the game more enjoyable

[SolviteSekai]

lol let's not turn this into a political debate. Just need some adjustments to make the buying/selling part of the game more enjoyable

No, you need to lower your prices. That's how a market works. You don't get to force people to buy your item.

[Squitten]

I hate to refer to FFXI, but this system was really good! It allowed for me to place my items up for sale and not worry about it, since I couldn't see what others were selling their stuff for. It just removes the need to constantly be checking and re-pricing items, saving me time to be doing other things. What are your thoughts?

If I remember right, we were allowed to see a history of pricing for an item, so people usually just priced around that amount. Undercutting is a part of the AH game. With AH pricing constantly changing, it gives people, who don't have a lot of gil, hope that one time the item they want will be cheap enough to buy.

[Starplayer]

No, you need to lower your prices. That's how a market works. You don't get to force people to buy your item.

lol I don't know how much crafting you do or how often you try to sell things but this is not the right approach. If we continue to lower our prices the way we have, there won't be any market left and gil will be useless

[SolviteSekai]

lol I don't know how much crafting you do or how often you try to sell things but this is not the right approach. If we continue to lower our prices the way we have, there won't be any market left and gil will be useless

Square cant force people to not undercut you.

This is how a free market works. Jesus man what is wrong with people on this game.

Next thing you know you will be telling SE they have to buy your items because other people won't.

[Lux_Rayna]

Undercutting usually occurs when something is overvalued. Just because you think it should sell for X amount doesnt mean it should. If there is heavy supply of a particular item, its value goes down through the process of undercutting unless demand can keep up. I think "sellers" need to get used to the idea that prices aren't static. Most things in this game are under heavy supply, and demand for what you can craft is relatively small. The end result is a lot of supply on the markets and a lot of undercutting to attract what little buyers there are.

Ive said since the game released that it is a buyer's market. Things are cheap, and will get cheaper as a matter of fact.

[Starplayer]

If I remember right, we were allowed to see a history of pricing for an item, so people usually just priced around that amount. Undercutting is a part of the AH game. With AH pricing constantly changing, it gives people, who don't have a lot of gil, hope that one time the item they want will be cheap enough to buy.

Yes you're right, but this current system is just so frustrating, I would take the old system over this new one any day. Besides, using the old system, you could simply try bidding lower and if someone has posted for less, you'll get your item cheaper.

[Folsom]

lol I don't know how much crafting you do or how often you try to sell things but this is not the right approach. If we continue to lower our prices the way we have, there won't be any market left and gil will be useless

No it won't. You'll just be able to buy more stuff with less gil. If everything costs 100, 100 gil becomes a valuable amount to have. If everything costs 1000 gil, 1000 gil becomes a valuable amount.

Money wasn't useless when gas cost $1.00 per gallon just because now it costs $3.50, and gil won't be useless just because you're not raking in Big Numbers. All you're really asking for is to "fix" (as in loaded dice) the AH to serve you and screw others because you want to roll around in gil. Don't pretend the "health" of the market is your concern. Do grocery stores go out of business because they only make a few cents of profit on every item? Of course not.

[Autumnfire]

Yeah even if you can't see the listing price, you'll still see what people are buying it for. Which is usually the cheapest they can get it for. That wouldn't change anything. And people don't HAVE to undercut just because one guy does. If 6 people think their item is worth 35K and one guy who wants to sell his quick lists it for 10k, let someone buy that one at 10K, and then when there aren't any more 10k items left, people will go back to deciding if they want to buy at 35k because thats what is left.

[SolviteSekai]

This thread is a joke, made by people who still don't understand that Gil value is based on how much gil is currently in the world.