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    Please Squeenix, implement blind bids on the markets...

    I'm a level 50 crafter who spends lots of time crafting items and putting them up for sale. I love the crafting mechanics in this game and I know future changes / modifications to the system will only make it better. However, since I craft mostly for profit (and I imagine that most crafters do), I've been forced to participate in the whole undercutting game. Don't get me wrong, I know that undercutting will always exist and it's a part of any system that involves the buying and selling of commodities, but why can't we minimize the constant checking of prices by allowing for blind auctions? I hate to refer to FFXI, but this system was really good! It allowed for me to place my items up for sale and not worry about it, since I couldn't see what others were selling their stuff for. It just removes the need to constantly be checking and re-pricing items, saving me time to be doing other things. What are your thoughts?
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    Undie Nilleshna
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    its the stupid undercutting thats the problem, where people drop prices by 100's even thousands on items, making them worthless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Undrentide View Post
    its the stupid undercutting thats the problem, where people drop prices by 100's even thousands on items, making them worthless.
    Agreed, I believe a system where we can't see what others are posting their items for is a solid solution. I realize that SE has other concerns, like how this would affect RMT's, but something has got to be done about it. The current system just feels sloppy. What was wrong with the system in FFXI tat we couldn't keep it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Undrentide View Post
    its the stupid undercutting thats the problem, where people drop prices by 100's even thousands on items, making them worthless.
    Because yet another MMO development team made yet another game where the market and it's commodities are all misaligned and badly proportioned to the time and investment spent on gathering, using and selling them.
    There wouldn't be much undercutting if people had to proper value items.
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    The undercutting is indeed ridiculous here. Never seen anything like it, not even in other newly launched MMO's. Anything SE could do to help would be appreciated.
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    I agree. Over the weekend I noticed my popular sales item wasn't selling hardly at all, upon checking I noticed the price had been quickly undercut to 50% of the original price. This is killing my wallet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Curagaja View Post
    I agree. Over the weekend I noticed my popular sales item wasn't selling hardly at all, upon checking I noticed the price had been quickly undercut to 50% of the original price. This is killing my wallet.
    The thing is that people see what your asking price is, and obviously buy what's cheapest. This forces you into a competition with other crafters, to see who can keep their items at the top of the list and it promotes undercutting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starplayer View Post
    The thing is that people see what your asking price is, and obviously buy what's cheapest. This forces you into a competition with other crafters, to see who can keep their items at the top of the list and it promotes undercutting.
    So the problem is capitalism?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SolviteSekai View Post
    So the problem is capitalism?
    lol let's not turn this into a political debate. Just need some adjustments to make the buying/selling part of the game more enjoyable
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starplayer View Post
    lol let's not turn this into a political debate. Just need some adjustments to make the buying/selling part of the game more enjoyable
    No, you need to lower your prices. That's how a market works. You don't get to force people to buy your item.
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