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  1. #41
    Player
    Hekmatyar-Koko's Avatar
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    Ul'Dah
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    Koko Flashfoot
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 50
    At least change Repel from character direction based to position based. Especially as DPS on bees I have noticed an occasion where I get put straight off the edge to a bee moving. (Not sure if this has been changed, been a while since I hit AK)

    Also people mention BLM hurts with the moving and cast-cancels - an AF III Flare > Convert > Swiftcast > Flare can be very potent and coupled with the damage from the other DPS will usually kill or almost kill them, I usually either do it ASAP with a good tank that can round them immediately or let the tank sink hits for a short while and do it IMMEDIATELY after the next repel - more than enough time to cast then (you might have to mess with your rotation to get the AF III before the bees/repel). The best thing with this is that after the initial Flare you can move as all the next actions are all instant. Might be welcome to mention to your Healer to SS yourself just after the second repel (to alleviate damage before/after Convert)

    EDIT: Also, tanks can stun the AOE the bees cast (and so can dps actually)
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    Last edited by Hekmatyar-Koko; 12-17-2013 at 05:56 PM.

  2. #42
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    Reishi's Avatar
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    Character
    Mythe Vandalay
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 70
    Anyone who already can say something about the "new" AK?
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  3. #43
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    Rifton Trevain
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 83
    I can say that I've experienced some graphical issues there, like small tears in the floor that I'm not experiencing anywhere else in the game. Also, I ran it a few times today and couldn't defeat demon wall in anything under five attempts. The location detection for Repel seems to be a bit more sensitive than normal, with tanks being knocked off even if standing in the middle. Not sure if it was a connection issue on their end or not, but I've had a lot more trouble than normal on that particular boss. Rest of the dungeon was smooth sailing.
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  4. #44
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    Michelasso's Avatar
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    Oerba, Gran Pulse
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    Arcana Morghana
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    I have the relic and half DL or so, missing all jewelry. But I have melded stuff. I did this crap yesterday again twice. The first run via the roulette and it went just smooth. The fastest ever, actually. Then i organized a party with my FC, missing only the tank. All better geared (and experienced) than me. I chose AK instead of WP by mistake. A wipe after another at the wall. Ok, it was 3 am. And it felt slow. Maybe it was a bit lagging. In any case it doesn't seem much nerfed to me. I don't see the reason to waste twice or more time in AK if I can do WP for the same rewards. To take out the 10 Mythology stones has been a bad idea. I'll never do it again if I can avoid it.
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    Last edited by Michelasso; 12-20-2013 at 07:15 PM.

  5. #45
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    Esco_Mafia's Avatar
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    Esco Mafia
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 50
    I PUG/MNK AK all the time and never have a problem. I actually ran it yesterday with two MNK's, WHM and WAR and we ran through AK. On Demon Wall we let the Bee alone and demolished the wall. No one died either XD.
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  6. #46
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    Esco Mafia
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    Gilgamesh
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Not true. I was new to AK as a lvl 50 MNK and worked with a random team. I was told to disregard the bees and DPS the wall. Our healer kited the bees to the edge of the purple crap in the back so we were out of range of the ale. We killed Demon wall, leaving the bees alone. To each his own I guess but I had no darklight gear and company weapon at the time.
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  7. #47
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    Sasagawa's Avatar
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    Character
    Seriy Anaplian
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 50
    I completed this in full AF first week with Ilvl 70 giantsgall sword. team had mainly AF as well.

    So....

    it can be done all you need is a good group.

    LB 1 bee and burn the 2nd

    then damage the wall
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  8. #48
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    SummonerSenah's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Senah Kha
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    I had trouble with Demon Wall at first, but it's easy once you learn the mechanics. My FC went in with WAR, BRD, WHM, and SMN. The tank took the bees while the bard and I took the wall. We were mostly in Darklight Gear, though, so I'm sure that helped.
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    Last edited by SummonerSenah; 01-09-2014 at 09:01 AM.

  9. #49
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    am0n's Avatar
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    Jeyza Re
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    My last AK we beat demon wall the last 40% with just me DPS'ing as a WHM and the tank doing his thing. Both of our DPS got knocked off after the bees.

    AK got nerfed in 2.1. It really doesn't require half as much as it used to.
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  10. #50
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    CyanDvai's Avatar
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    Cyan Dvai
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by GuardianX View Post
    Omg dude, we're we in the same fight? I was whm and it was only myself and tank. We ran out of room to a point where all the floor was purple but we still killed the wall.
    I'm sure this situation has happened with other people, the WHM I was with at that time was from my FC, her name is Vega Corvi. If the Wall gets to the end then it really depends on how well the healer can keep you alive. It was a pretty epic fight, I mean, my first time fighting the wall I fell off on the first repel.
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