Quote Originally Posted by MBTL90 View Post
I, and the people who I run keep with are extremely geared (relic, multiple pieces of myth/crafted gear). That being said, we are hugely disapointed if we don't kill the wall before the bees spawn. It isn't really even a dps check, more of a "do you know proper rotations for your class check", because the dps requirement is very low.
That is untrue, gear affects this game by a lot. When I first arrived the Demon Wall in full AF with my friends it was a heavy DPS check, we almost ran out of space by the end of the fight, and used the LB (if up) on one of the bees.

Now with full DL, relic+1, and some AF2, we kill the wall before the 2nd set of areas / repel happens. I've been doing the same rotations now and before, and I've been using DPS parsers too.

You all can give tips to people who is new in AK (in terms of gear), but by no means you should tell them "weird, we do it like that and DPS is fine". The Demon Wall is a challenge if you're recently entering AK with poor gear and an inexperienced group, even if they know their class.