Amdapor Keep Issue

[Lemon8or]

^^
yeah we don't bother with bees either, but i have to wonder can setup with 2 monks/lancers in AF + lets say ifrit weaps kill the wall ?
i mean they have to attack from flanks/back to actually do dps right ?

Uhm, we can still do dps from flank. Monks don't get extra dps from Bootshine or True Strike but the Flank moves are far more than enough. I did it in full AF + Ifrit weapon + non HQ (quested item) accessories. No reason you shouldn't be able to.

[Ash_Smokespear]

I can confirm it's very doable with two melee. Ran it with a monk and myself (dragoon). It was the monk's first time (FC group) there and he had some pretty crappy weapons. I did have some DL gear and Ifrit weapon. Monk fell down when repel hit after bees spawned and we still got it done, although it was close . As mentioned you can do flanking attacks.

^^
yeah we don't bother with bees either, but i have to wonder can setup with 2 monks/lancers in AF + lets say ifrit weaps kill the wall ?
i mean they have to attack from flanks/back to actually do dps right ?

[Horg]

Things should not be nerfed because bad players can't clear it.

^^ I think this pretty much sums up this thread.

[Eddge]

As a Drg in AF and ifrit weapon have had no problem here. LB left kill right dance keep dot up simple rotation

[LilSmalls]

No excuse for not being able to get through.

As a test me and 3 other FC mates did a AK run. We used only White Gears and GC Gears (Level 50). No DL, AF, AF+1, Relics.

We cleared the dungeon in 40mins. No Wipes.

It's much more beneficial to know the mechanics than to have good gear. Having good gear and knowing the mechanics will make the run faster.

[Subucnimorning]

I had a group where we 3 manned it easily (other dps somehow fell off on engage). I am overgeared for it but point being if it can be done with 1 dps, there is no excuse for failing the dps check.

[Sinth]

Demon wall is a DPS check. You shouldn't be facing it wearing artifact gear and white accessories. Just because content is accessible doesn't mean that you should easily clear it the moment you gain access to it.

[Duuude007]

Plainly put, if your DPS is high enough to get Demon Wall to half health by the time the gnats spawn (after 2nd repel), it is safe to say you can defeat it while ignoring the gnats, possibly even not using LB.

I've even been in groups that can outright kill the wall BEFORE the 2nd repel.

Use the above as a measure of whether your team's rotations are ready.

also:

• Is your tank not using sword oath to help dps?
• Are people gimping themselves by not avoiding liquify?
• Are people falling off the edges?
• Are you not coordinating LB and how the gnats will be crowd-controlled?

[MBTL90]

I, and the people who I run keep with are extremely geared (relic, multiple pieces of myth/crafted gear). That being said, we are hugely disapointed if we don't kill the wall before the bees spawn. It isn't really even a dps check, more of a "do you know proper rotations for your class check", because the dps requirement is very low.

[Vektrat]

I, and the people who I run keep with are extremely geared (relic, multiple pieces of myth/crafted gear). That being said, we are hugely disapointed if we don't kill the wall before the bees spawn. It isn't really even a dps check, more of a "do you know proper rotations for your class check", because the dps requirement is very low.

That is untrue, gear affects this game by a lot. When I first arrived the Demon Wall in full AF with my friends it was a heavy DPS check, we almost ran out of space by the end of the fight, and used the LB (if up) on one of the bees.

Now with full DL, relic+1, and some AF2, we kill the wall before the 2nd set of areas / repel happens. I've been doing the same rotations now and before, and I've been using DPS parsers too.

You all can give tips to people who is new in AK (in terms of gear), but by no means you should tell them "weird, we do it like that and DPS is fine". The Demon Wall is a challenge if you're recently entering AK with poor gear and an inexperienced group, even if they know their class.