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  1. #1
    Player
    Teleniel's Avatar
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    Aug 2013
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Tele Nariel
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 60
    AK can (as currently implemented) be completed with a party of 4 using:
    lv44 Grand Company Weapon (you unlock lv50 by clearing this dungeon)
    lv45/50 AF armor (head / body / hands / legs /feet)
    lv40~50 waist / accessories.

    Any problems you have with DPS come from either a lack of understanding of the job you're playing, or a lack of understanding of fight mechanics leading to a death. Things like : Paladin should be using Sword Oath the entire fight, Warrior should not be using defiance. Mages should be putting up instat-DOTs while moving to avoid the sludge (Aero and the like). White Mage should probably use Medica-II so they can focus more on DPS rather than single-target healing (since the wall basic attacks are un-tankable), while Sch's can use AoE dmg shields.
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    dragonflyseksparade's Avatar
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    Dragonfly Seksparade
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Teleniel View Post
    White Mage should probably...
    People who've clearly never played white mage should probably not make suggestions on how to play the job. Medica II is a good idea, yes. But whms do not dps after bees spawn. Dps before first KB, yes. DPS before 2nd KB, yes. But once bees spawn there's no more dps. It is keeping medica 2 up, keeping regen up on everyone, esuna the derps/lazymelee, and Cure I/II whichever dps has aggro on the bee that isn't being tanked.
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    CrazyDuck's Avatar
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    Character
    Cherryana Sugartoes
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    I must be pugging with 99% bad players then if what you are telling me is true
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    Chiramu's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Cirra Maru
    World
    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 70
    Demon wall is easy and the last boss just needs the tank to keep the bosses ass away from the group.

    Have good dps for AK and you won't even notice these guys, you can kill demon wall in one repel after you get the adds down and you can get the final boss down in two add spawns.

    Get gear and learn to play OP.
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    Character
    Puhthetic Fool
    World
    Malboro
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    If you lack dps or heal maybe they shouldn't be there.
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    GrimKhaos's Avatar
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    Magna Sanatore
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    op are you tanking demon wall in tanking stance? really is'nt needed for you to be in tank stance dps it if you don't feel the dps is there. I have solo dpsed it as blm and i use cleric stance while i heal it. isnt really a heavy healing or tanking type of fight if people dodge.
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    Sinax's Avatar
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    Character
    Nyabrys Kirijou
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Botanist Lv 50
    Things should not be nerfed because bad players can't clear it. If I can 3-man this place with no problems, then a 4-man group in WP+ gear have no excuses. You either avoid the VERY EASY mechanics and know what your abilities do, or forever wipe to the VERY EASY boss.
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    Character
    Pomf Pomf
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    My party skipped killing bee while wearing af armour. So no it is not that hard.

    Fail-proof strategy: Make your tank tank both bee. Tank hit left bee you kill left bee, tank hit right bee you kill right bee. Just follow the script and you are fine.
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    Alanon's Avatar
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    Character
    Jaqen H'ghar
    World
    Malboro
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    Stop killing the Bees. I go with a Blm and Brd (so no single target LB). After second repel, I switch from sword oath to shield oath, flash the bees a couple times and drag them front left. Blm and Brd dodge back-right and stay on the wall. Wait a couple seconds, pop hallowed ground for safety, and wall is usually dead before a 3rd repel. Only trick is, the healer needs to watch hate when bees first pop.
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    Character
    Amardis Amariyo
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    ^^
    yeah we don't bother with bees either, but i have to wonder can setup with 2 monks/lancers in AF + lets say ifrit weaps kill the wall ?
    i mean they have to attack from flanks/back to actually do dps right ?
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