How can we be sure SE bans the right person for exploits if there's no transparency?

[Richiealvian]

I just saw in youtube some guy changing hi potions to infinite money. Now once that money circulates.. Everyone can get hold of it, intentionally or not. You think we as customers deserve to know how they dealt with it? I'd say if that happens in just one day the damage is irreversible to the point that only a world wipe can fix.

Also, inb4 why does someone getting rich bother you..

Edit: What I meant isn't a hall of shame. More like how they dealt with it, what were the bugs being used.. Why lie and pretend like nothing ever happened except bots?

[Nanga]

What, exactly, are you expecting SE to do? Release the account name, owner's first and last name, as well as their billing address - and publish it for the public to see?

[Richiealvian]

No, more like admit the bug ever occurred and tell us what exactly are they doing to fix the damage done, and how.. Do you think it's fair? People who worked hard and get gil cleaned, people who cheated with nothing to lose but money to gain on the RMT market. I am neither, because I haven't made much gil but to think that with that money circulating so many things could've happen.. just bugs the hell out of me. People who shouldn't get banned get banned, people who actually got away with some percentage of that massive wealth just because they are "below the suspicious amount", people who actually cheated their way and probably 1-2 got away with it for every 10000 cheats..

[Alhanelem]

Nothing good can come out of releasing information like that. would just lead to a name & shame fest.

[Overon]

I think SE should make a Shame List ,
Character Name
Server
Reason for Punishment
Punishment

Sick of these "I am Innocent" Threads .......
Everytime someone gets caught breaking TOS its always the "I am innocent" threads , if we have a Shame List , we could all just point to it and tell them to STFU .

Cheaters are the SCUM that hurt every game and there is no excuse for being that lazy that you have to reply on RMT and Third Party Tools to win ..........

[Richiealvian]

I think hall of shame would just promote to other RL issues, harassment, and stalking. What I meant was how they dealt with it and what they dealt with. Why do they think their ban is justified, and all that crap.

[Overon]

I think hall of shame would just promote to other RL issues, harassment, and stalking. What I meant was how they dealt with it and what they dealt with. Why do they think their ban is justified, and all that crap.

If you cheat , well....................

It would promote less cheating , knowing that you would be humiliated beyond a ban and not only that , we would all know you were a joke at that .

RL issues ? I did not say REAL NAME , heck you could simply stop playing or Reroll and try to be legit the next time and no one would know ..............
So really a Hall of Shame would work and there really is no Down Side .

In Real life you break the Law , you get a Criminal Record that can be looked at by just about everyone who knows how to go get it .

[Theref]

Yes SE should make a site like this just like how DF:UW deal with rule breakers http://www.unholybanhammer.com/BH/

[Richiealvian]

I'm not very tech savvy, but there are people out there that goes out of their ways to track someone.. So I dunno about any hall of shames, should be why witch hunting is banned from every other communities. But I'm just saying SE's way of saying "We banned XXX amounts because of a [blanket statement]" when there are clearly other issues going on that they're not being very honest about irritates me. Think about the guy with 1 billion gil (exaggeration), I think if I dedicated my whole life to playing ff14 I wouldn't have that much gil. While he buys all the things in the market and then gets banned along with it, and then the people who he bought from gets banned and gets the finger for getting "fake bills". Yeah.. isn't that fun.

[Overon]

snip.

Look there is no perfect way to do this because there will always be people like yourself picking apart what is done .

As for Personal Information , you would have to be a Hacker to get that and that's illegal by Law in almost every Country .

A Hall of Shame would have no Personal Information and it would be the ultimate punishment .