How can we be sure SE bans the right person for exploits if there's no transparency?

[himehime]

with such a slow response time to the issues, the economy is already in the dumps lol

1 person can literally buy out the entire market - a blanket suspension in this case would cause a mass outrage considering how many people use the markets. long term rollback would be absolutely terrible since these methods of gil generation have existed for a while. not sure how square is going to deal with it

[Drakzen1]

Funny thing is people still dont realize that exploit is the sole reason for last months said "RMT" ban.
The very reason they banned people who had large amounts of gil was because of the exploit done on several severs by several different groups.
The reason that they didn't attack legacy severs was simply because they couldn't pin point massive gil account, as lots of people already had large amounts.
Now the reason there keeping quite about it is because it has the possibility of massive bad press if it got out to news media and this is also the reason
SE has not responded to the characters affected by this ban. Not because your guilty but because it would hurt the game to admit this has taken place
and is still taking place.

[Gyrus]

Funny thing is people still dont realize that exploit is the sole reason for last months said "RMT" ban.
The very reason they banned people who had large amounts of gil was because of the exploit done on several severs by several different groups.
The reason that they didn't attack legacy severs was simply because they couldn't pin point massive gil account, as lots of people already had large amounts.
Now the reason there keeping quite about it is because it has the possibility of massive bad press if it got out to news media and this is also the reason
SE has not responded to the characters affected by this ban. Not because your guilty but because it would hurt the game to admit this has taken place
and is still taking place.

WE NEED TO get it out, Why? SE doesn't like their name tarnished and will do everything to fix it if they do. Perfect example: 1.0

[Drakzen1]

WE NEED TO get it out, Why? SE doesn't like their name tarnished and will do everything to fix it if they do. Perfect example: 1.0

It astounds me that they think they can cover it up. Though im not sure getting it out might be an epic ruin for the game. Its hard to say whats the best course of action from this point.

But removing gil from players and saying it was all done to fight "RMT"(which is only remotely true) also banning people for days on end is kinda silly when the real issue has yet to be touched. To be quite honest they should have taken the game down in phase 4, when the issue first game to light and fixed it.From project standpoint it would be less of a wound, because at present it is getting to the point where it is almost deadly.

[Gyrus]

It astounds me that they think they can cover it up. Though im not sure getting it out might be an epic ruin for the game. Its hard to say whats the best course of action from this point.

But removing gil from players and saying it was all done to fight "RMT"(which is only remotely true) also banning people for days on end is kinda silly when the real issue has yet to be touched. To be quite honest they should have taken the game down in phase 4, when the issue first game to light and fixed it.From project standpoint it would be less of a wound, because at present it is getting to the point where it is almost deadly.

i agree, They can't even add a chat filter lol..

[Lux_Rayna]

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They told us how they dealt with it. They also sent emails to everyone who got banned explaining the violations. Why does it need to be any more transparent than that? If SE just starts broadcasting what they're finding and how they're finding it, people are going to use that information to avoid getting caught. SE knows what they are doing. What cracks me up is that you have a mass of players with zero data thinking they know better.

[Drakzen1]

They told us how they dealt with it. They also sent emails to everyone who got banned explaining the violations. Why does it need to be any more transparent than that? If SE just starts broadcasting what they're finding and how they're finding it, people are going to use that information to avoid getting caught. SE knows what they are doing. What cracks me up is that you have a mass of players with zero data thinking they know better.

Not to argue or anything. But truth be told that is the reason for the massive bans. Also the reason
account on legacy severs where not affected by this, and also the reason the games economy is in shambles.
But people have posted about this exploit before and in a few hours im sure even this post will be nuked.

[KevinC]

Not to argue or anything. But truth be told that is the reason for the massive bans. Also the reason
account on legacy severs where not affected by this, and also the reason the games economy is in shambles.
But people have posted about this exploit before and in a few hours im sure even this post will be nuked.

It amaze me how much people think SE did any kind of investigation. Someone came up to the forums last week claiming he bought gils online and didn't suspended or anything. They just used some kind of automated program and innocent players got caught in the crossfire

[Overon]

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The World you live in ..........lol

The Program itself does not ban ,
it compiles information about characters marked by being linked to a Banned RMT
The Name of Linked Account to RMT goes on a list
GMs check Said list
Then you get what you get .

Again most of you got a suspension and a wipe of Gil ........
I know , I know , first Crafter whatnot.....
I heard on my server a FC had players who lost Gil due to this and they sold Titan Runs . Likely paid for by players who bought Gil , hence why the Titan Mercs only lost their Gil and not got banned.
They and possibly you made deals with Shady people who paid for your services with Bubble money , and as soon as they walked away it all popped ......... atleast that's how I see it.

[KevinC]

The Program itself does not ban ,
it compiles information about characters marked by being linked to a Banned RMT
The Name of Linked Account to RMT goes on a list
GMs check Said list
Then you get what you get .

Again most of you got a suspension and a wipe of Gil ........
I know , I know , first Crafter whatnot.....
I heard on my server a FC had players who lost Gil due to this and they sold Titan Runs . Likely paid for by players who bought Gil , hence why the Titan Mercs only lost their Gil and not got banned.
They and possibly you made deals with Shady people who paid for your services with Bubble money , and as soon as they walked away it all popped ......... atleast that's how I see it.

Too bad you jump in a thread making posts when you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. I'm not even a crafter, I sold mining mats to hundreds of different players. Guess my whole server is populated with shady people... Oh and then NPCs are shady too, they also took the 350k I made from the story