Proposition to Bahamut Coil to help other players

[KogaDrake]

"Selling Turn 1/2. 500k any class. All relic+1. Hundreds of runs no wipes. PST"

^ that's the problem.

See the thing is why would you pay for a coil kill? 500K for a chance at some loot you can use? People pay for titan because it is 100% chance they get there relic (best wep once +1, and second best currently obtainable since turn 5 allagan weps are not really on the table atm), and the titan fight is actually harder to do the Coil just due to the way lag effects mechanics in that fight.

The only reason to pay for a Coil run is to avoid the hassles of finding a group (which isnt had really) and have a small chance at getting loot you may be able to use. I paid for my 2nd Jobs titan because it wasnt worth my time to find a group of 8 who can all do their job in titan and down him, and i knew i was getting my relic 100%, but I wouldn't pay 1/2 of what a titan run goes for (titan is only 200k on my server) to even have turns 1 and 2 killed simply because the low chance of useable loot (turns 1+2 done for 3 weeks and only got 1 loot, some of my static group has 0 still) and how easy it is to get a group and do coil with. Its just not worth the gil for chances at something you can get from mythos.

[TetsuyaHikari]

I did welcome to MMORPG

You cannot block people to do stuff just because of some turds

And that makes it okay... How exactly? Just because they can do it doesn't make it right. I could fill up this whole page with reasons as to why I believe selling runs and such is a bad idea, but hey... If you're okay with it by using the defense of, "Oh, it's alright because people don't have to buy them.", then it's obvious you wouldn't understand even a fraction of my essay on the subject anyway.

[Trikki]

I've seen this posted somwhere and I honestly think this is a great idea.
I understand that SE doesn't want us to spam Coil and get geared in 3-4 days and that is fine with me.
But how about this If exemple Player A wins turn 1 during said week, he should be able to go back to turn 1 to help friends, BUT player A would just get locked on Gear drop
So I win turn 1, goes to help my friend do turn 1 and win, well I cannot lot gear since I already won turn 1 that week

Make alt feeder groups to supply a main raid. Loot train choo choo.

Also as has been pointed out: selling runs.

[Balbanes]

"Selling Turn 1/2. 500k any class. All relic+1. Hundreds of runs no wipes. PST"

^ that's the problem.

If someone's dumb enough to pay for it... that's not the fault of everyone else.

[Shiyo]

Make alt feeder groups to supply a main raid. Loot train choo choo.

Also as has been pointed out: selling runs.

Both of these things literally effect NO ONE. Who cares?

Until you can come up with a better reason as to why we can't spam coil but only be eligible for loot once per turn besides "omg people will sell runs and gear up friends by 7 people helping or gear up alts!" then this NEEDS to happen ,and happen NOW. It it RUINING the game for many players(and many more soon) and completely game destroying peoples ability to play all their jobs, play with all their friends and help out friends/fc mates.

A main selling point of this game was "play any job you want on 1 character!" yet the entire end game design contradicts this.

It WILL lose the game subs, people WILL quit from inability to play and gear all their jobs, as well as help out friends/FC mates. No one wants to pay $15/month to be restricted to running the only fun/challenging content ONCE A WEEK on ONE JOB per turn.

Gear up alts? That's not what he means. He means use alts to rapidly gear up mains. As in you do it 8 times and each time one person gets ALL the loot. All in a week. This would push far past the progression SE wants.

Ok, each personcan get 1 piece of loot per turn per week only or 1 piece of loot per 3 turns per week.

Can we stop thinking up insane scenarios that this would be a bad thing now please? It would make the game 400x better and more enjoyable for EVERYONE.

[ispano]

Gear up alts? That's not what he means. He means use alts to rapidly gear up mains. As in you do it 8 times and each time one person gets ALL the loot. All in a week. This would push far past the progression SE wants.

[Alhanelem]

while it sucks, this would be SUPER abuseable. Clear coil with one group, then swap out 1 person at atime to keep doing it again to gear up individual members of your company/linkshell, or sell spots to people.

[Garnatian]

I understand that SE doesn't want us to spam Coil and get geared in 3-4 days and that is fine with me.

People hating mercs for no reason again?


That is not a problem, If people don't wanna pay no one is forcing them

My goal is to help friends

But you're fine with people buying it and getting it even easier? What?

[NoctisCaelus]

I made this thread a while back: Same idea.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ahamut-Coil%21