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    Ozpa's Avatar
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    Odin
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    Archer Lv 50

    Question on the combat system

    Hi all!

    I have reached 50 but still don't understand how avoiding enemy aoe skills works (the red cones/boxes etc.). Sometimes I get way out of range of the red zone but still get hit, feels like major lag in games but I don't lag at all. I come from TERA where the damage frame is the frame where you see the animation hit you when you are in it's zone (e.g. the laser hit you) but here I have the feeling you are locked to receive the damage even before the red zone disappears, so even if you run away and it seems on the screen the enemy skill doesn't hit you, you still get the damage. I think I understand how this combat system works, but it looks very unrealistic.

    Turned out somewhat of a complaint from me, but still wanted to clarify with players who do end dungeons does it work there like that too?
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    Aeika's Avatar
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    Matty Kusuri
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    Brynhildr
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    Reaper Lv 90
    When you are attempting to move out of a red zone where a cleave or AoE is about to hit, whether or not you avoid it is based on where your character is when the cast finishes and not when the animation goes off. The spell finishes about half a second before the zone disappears.

    This can be kind of a confusing mechanic for some people because even though they looked like they were well away when the animation went off, they weren't in fact out of the the red zone when the cast finished.

    You can actually walk into the red zone at the last second and not get hit. This is helpful mostly for tanks to keep the mob facing in the proper direction to avoid cleaving the party.

    The "lag" is an intended feature and has already been adjusted (in beta, you had to move somewhere closer to before 3/4 of the cast) and is a huge improvement now compared to before.

    Our own spells work the same actually. When casting a heal, I can move when the bars full even though the animation hasn't even happened and the heal will still land.

    TL;DR- Move out of red spaces. Don't wait, don't leave one foot in, don't try to finish your cast, just move.
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    I read everything, thanks.
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    Carn Astrael
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    Leviathan
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    Bard Lv 77
    and there are some bosses that make AOE attacks that do NOT have a red box...watch for the counters that appear over their bar.
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