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    Jaminos's Avatar
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    Jaminos Talon
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    Exodus
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    Gladiator Lv 50

    Curiosity about AK

    So I have tanked successfully Ifrit more times than I care to count. I have had no issues with WP unless the DPS was not on the ball for the second boss. So I figured I would give AK a try. I regret my decision in life about trying that. I could not pull agro off anyone even with a iLvl 55 sword and patchwork gear. Some still my starting artifact armor with a DL belt and iLvl 55 pants and boots.

    Is this a DL minimum for tanks or was I just in a pug with people who were over geared for me to tank for successfully?
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    Tanking in MMO's for over 10 years.

    "For by fire, I am reborn!"


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    Kryzen's Avatar
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    Mazus Valefor
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    Diabolos
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    with i55 weapon only thing that should be giving you any kind of issues really is going to be relic. Anything before relic you should be able to hold aggro.
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    Jaminos Talon
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    Exodus
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    I noticed most of the people had Ifrit and Varies weapons. But again, I could not even pull a mob off of them with a provoke, flash halone combo. I consider myself a fairly competent tank. But I could not pull agro to save my life. I had depleted my MP and it did little good.
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    Tanking in MMO's for over 10 years.

    "For by fire, I am reborn!"


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    Giantbane's Avatar
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    Adol Giantbane
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    Ultros
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Jaminos View Post
    I noticed most of the people had Ifrit and Varies weapons. But again, I could not even pull a mob off of them with a provoke, flash halone combo. I consider myself a fairly competent tank. But I could not pull agro to save my life. I had depleted my MP and it did little good.
    provoke just puts you at their threat level+1 enmity, so you need to do a heavy threat move immediately following it. Shield toss or rage of halone (better if you can time it to provoke just before the end of a combo). Fight or flight also helps when doing the halone combo (dunno if it affects flash tho).
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    KristianFortNox's Avatar
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    Kristian Fortnox
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 100
    I know it very dumb question and I am sorry I am new into Final Fantasy MMO what does AK mean?
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    Neon Sea
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    AK = Amdapor Keep

    I notice a lot of players have itchy trigger fingers and will hit the mob as soon as the tank touches it, just let people know to wait a little before attacking and you should be fine. The initial hits are so important to enmity bar and people do not pay attention, not only that once they have hate they keep attacking!
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    Altimis Farron
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    Aegis
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Let me give advice

    1. Flash will not work on mobs if mobs resisted your blind flash, so wait a couple seconds before you attempt to flash it again, do not flash it immediately because its wasted MP and do not increase enmity.
    2. Make sure you are the first one to pull the mobs, its will generate enmity on you better than its aggro by others stupids DD.
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    Aria Placida
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    Lamia
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    Ninja Lv 88
    Quote Originally Posted by Altimis View Post
    Let me give advice

    1. Flash will not work on mobs if mobs resisted your blind flash, so wait a couple seconds before you attempt to flash it again, do not flash it immediately because its wasted MP and do not increase enmity.
    2. Make sure you are the first one to pull the mobs, its will generate enmity on you better than its aggro by others stupids DD.
    Neither of those statements are true. >_>
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    Anthreas Longshadow
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Altimis View Post
    Let me give advice

    1. Flash will not work on mobs if mobs resisted your blind flash, so wait a couple seconds before you attempt to flash it again, do not flash it immediately because its wasted MP and do not increase enmity.
    2. Make sure you are the first one to pull the mobs, its will generate enmity on you better than its aggro by others stupids DD.
    Neither of these are true as someone has said. Flash does increase enmity as many times as you use it. Only downside is the blind effect (which is a good damage mitigator) will go from 12 - 6 - 3 sec to resist if used repeatedly, so it's kinda situational. I did AK in AF gear plus iLvl 49 weapon, with 0 wipes or threat issues, just have to know when to use cool downs more frequently than you'd prolly like to in standard trash pulls. Shield Bash is your friend once you have aggro, ive even tab targeted shield bash when I was just taking too much dmg. I tend to spam flash for groups of 4 or more. But a good opener that might help you gain threat is Shield Lob - Flight or Fight/Blood Bath- Fast Blade / Circle of Scorn / Spirit within - Flash x2 - finish halone combo. Then just tab target tanking using combo finisher on your main target.
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    Last edited by Anthreas; 10-16-2013 at 06:48 PM.

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    PetiteMalFleur's Avatar
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    Viva Diva
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 60
    Dps just needed to slow it down a bit. AK does tend to have well geared people queueing for it. It also has well geared people who want to kill everything as quickly as possible and get annoyed at having to slow down to let the tank get aggro.
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