Tank mentality.

[GinTama]

I'm currently leveling up warrior, so when I tank in a dungeon (I only level over dungeons, dont fate farm) I expect common sense like, "dont run in front of me","please mind kill order","dont attack before I do".
If they fail that I simply remind them first, but if they repeatedly ignore that, I will stop to tank.

[Peemja]

I guess I've been really lucky. I have always had either neutral (silent) members, or positive ones. Of course, there are occasional d-bags, but they are everywhere. The times I mess up, I quickly apologize, and people usually say everyone makes mistakes, and vice versa, and I have done and completed every instance and boss excluding coil.
I've actually been quite impressed with FF's community.

[Ryutsuna]

I just started a Marauder subclass (MNK originally) and told myself I'd repeatedly do the first few dungeons to make sure I understand the tanking role and everything, but the more I read this thread, the more worried I get, haha. I just hope I can find patient teamates on my few first tries and not become a bitter bastard xD .

[ExarKun007]

Some people are helpful! It was a SMN that helped me with WP, and a DRG that explained the mechanics in AK for me. I did that first run in AF gear with GC weapon and jewelry. I told them upfront it was first time, and it worked out in the end. It got a bit hairy to be sure, but everyone did their job and handled it. I've no issues with takin someone new, as long as they listen and are reasonably competent.

[Grailer]

Probably because they are sick and tired of people whining .

For example my last 3 WP runs .. SAME SPOT


GROUP1 -- healer goes ... why did you pull so much if we were doing a speed run why didn't you say ... ME: Thinks DOH! ok ill go slow pack by pack . you can guess how that was .

GROUP2 -- healer goes .. pull back here .. I turn around and group let me hanging to die .

GROUP3 -- healer goes TIP for next time run down there and grab next mob ( this is the complete opposite to group 1 and 2's healers

Then the healer in group 3 whines and whines about how slow we are going . So I take off shield oath to do some xtra dps and pull more . However the dps weren't doing AOE so its hard to kill stuff fast right .


Seriously I don't know what to do group 1 and 2 want A , group 3 wants B , group 4 wants C ,, but I want to do B , but they want C or A .


Did I mention the healer in group 3 started pulling stuff , I mean what a joke if the DPS is doing single target there is no point to pulling the entire dungeon it just makes it infinitely harder to hold agro when 2 dps are on 2 different mobs, healer pulls 2 mobs which I have to get agro off , plus hold agro to the 2 mobs being single targeted and the other mobs using flash when Im low on mp because we are going so fast and I cant regain mana because that would require using a low enminty move etc etc .

Anyways , I could always just load in my warrior which is lvl 50 and hold agro ez mode

[kasuke06]

Tanks get mad because we're blamed for EVERYTHING.

Healer D/Cs midfight? Tank's fault.
DPS can't count? Tank's fault.
DPS stood in fire? Tank's fault.
Healer stands in fire? Tank's fault.
DPS decides to go all leroy jenkins and gets eaten while everyone else is discussing strategy for the boss? Tank's ****ing fault.

Maybe take some responsibility for your own **** ups now and again and we won't be so damn angry all the time.

[NZ_Player]

regardless of whats going on in peoples heads theres is no excuse for acting like a complete tool and insulting strangers over the internet like a tough guy.
some people need help of the psychiatric kind or they are going to have a very painful reality check when they exit moms basement and try to employ the same attitude face to face.
if you have to say something, be constructive.
if you cannot adapt to accommodate a new strategy or assist limp player then perhaps you are not as good as you think you are.

[kasuke06]

regardless of whats going on in peoples heads theres is no excuse for acting like a complete tool and insulting strangers over the internet like a tough guy.
some people need help of the psychiatric kind or they are going to have a very painful reality check when they exit moms basement and try to employ the same attitude face to face.
if you have to say something, be constructive.
if you cannot adapt to accommodate a new strategy or assist limp player then perhaps you are not as good as you think you are.

Why should I have to help if someone has a limp noodle? that's what toys are for, and I'm a tank, I have an entire toybox to play with.

[Eightbit]

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Learning you are at the mercy of those teaching you. After you know it though take charge and tell them to keep up with you or they will die. When I tank something I know, we do it my way. I'm the tank, I know the dungeon, I know my limits, and I can generally judge early on what the party limits are.

[Grailer]

Learning you are at the mercy of those teaching you. After you know it though take charge and tell them to keep up with you or they will die. When I tank something I know, we do it my way. I'm the tank, I know the dungeon, I know my limits, and I can generally judge early on what the party limits are.

well on the 3rd group I told the healer feel free to leave and don't let the door hit you on the way out . I guess they came here and posted how tanks are mental blah blah