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    Wolfrisger's Avatar
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    Zenjin Blackthorn
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    Why is FF XIV so gold seller friendly???

    First of all, there's no report button. Just a blacklist which I'm assuming is /ignore. I use blacklist for annoyances, not just gold spammers.
    Secondly, theres no ignore option when you click the spammers name. You have to type out every ridiculous concoction that the sellers come up with.
    Thirdly, if you use a ps3, which I do, typing is a nightmare.
    I may be off here, but it really seems like you are encouraging the in game gold selling. You guys getting a piece of that pie since you're still p2p? Please enlighten us as to why you seem to leave out basic spam prevention that's included in every decent MMO out there....
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    There is a report button. Start > System > Support Desk > Contact Us tab
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    Krazaria Swiftstrike
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akuha View Post
    There is a report button. Start > System > Support Desk > Contact Us tab
    That's like four different buttons you have to hit. Also is a PITA where in all other MMO's there is a right click and report or some Quick (key word) to report and move on.

    With the set up, as is, not many if anyone is going to make the effort to go through that report option every time spammed.

    Glad that they are at least, from what Estellios says, that a click blacklist is coming soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krazarian View Post
    That's like four different buttons you have to hit. Also is a PITA where in all other MMO's there is a right click and report or some Quick (key word) to report and move on.

    With the set up, as is, not many if anyone is going to make the effort to go through that report option every time spammed.

    Glad that they are at least, from what Estellios says, that a click blacklist is coming soon.
    I said there was a report button, I didn't say it was convenient to use.
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    Yoso Carrasco
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    They are also implementing a right click > blacklist next patch.
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    I suggest you get a USB Keyboard if you don't have one since your playing on ps3.

    I play on ps3 as well.
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    If you think these companies aren't getting a cut of the gold spammer pie you're insane. It's just good business sense to take advantage of the income goldsellers make.
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    Arcana Morghana
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ofiach View Post
    If you think these companies aren't getting a cut of the gold spammer pie you're insane. It's just good business sense to take advantage of the income goldsellers make.
    Going against their own ToS? Unlikely if not even illegal. Still I wonder were all those zillions gils come from. If I understood correctly to only way to make money is to get it from the other players. But since at least up to lvl 30 we all just make only few thousands gils from quests it doesn't make much sense. Unless one can get rich at the highest levels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ofiach View Post
    If you think these companies aren't getting a cut of the gold spammer pie you're insane.
    The fact that you think Square is getting a cut from them is insane.

    Square bans THOUSANDS of accounts that are owned by RMTs every week. Hell, the first 3 days of the game saw about 8000 accounts belonging to RMTs banned. Square has an entire department of employee's whose sole job is to investigate RMTs, and ban them. In fact, square devotes more energy to removing them, then any other MMO. Is it square's fault that banning accounts and blocking IPs doesn't stop it all from happening?

    As long as idiots keep using RMTs, and no one takes legal action against them, then they'll always be there.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfrisger View Post
    Thirdly, if you use a ps3, which I do, typing is a nightmare.
    No, no it's not. It's called spend the 15 bucks at for a cheap USB keyboard. Problem solved. And Typing without a keyboard isn't that hard either. You're probably someone that probably looks at text messaging on phones that don't have a full keypad as barbaric.

    If you're not willing to make things easier for yourself when the options are available, then you've no right to complain.
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    Last edited by Slatervonjager; 10-12-2013 at 04:44 AM.

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    Y'kayah Tia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slatervonjager View Post
    Square bans THOUSANDS of accounts that are owned by RMTs every week. Hell, the first 3 days of the game saw about 8000 accounts belonging to RMTs banned. Square has an entire department of employee's whose sole job is to investigate RMTs, and ban them. In fact, square devotes more energy to removing them, then any other MMO.
    They may devote a lot of energy to it, but that energy isn't as productive as it could be if they'd give themselves the proper tools. Besides simplicity for the players, the real benefit of having a "report this" option in the chat box's right-click menu is the way that can be tied to the chat itself. As it is, players have to go into the report form and describe what happened, after which someone at SE has to do a search in their log files to verify whether that's what actually happened. If the reporting was done based on a particular chat entry, the tool itself could supply SE with not only a report but that chat entry itself from which someone generated that report. At that point, all it would take is a glance to identify whether the report is a valid case of RMT spam. There would be far less effort needed in investigating it and these accounts could be blocked immediately.

    Of course, by itself that doesn't take care of the actual RMT, just the spam advertising it, but that alone would be a huge benefit to the game (plus put a major dent in RMT's profitability). All they need to do is make sure an account that sends this spam doesn't last long enough to make back the cost of setting up the account. At that point, the advertising for RMT would move off the game onto third-party sites. (They'll still need other, more complicated tools to take care of the rest of the RMT itself.)
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