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    nobody speak about the MP tick clock, which is asynchronous, mastering the tick can greatly improve your dmg

    thus TH3 is too long to cast, and you re delaying your fire phase, resulting in dps loss
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    Quote Originally Posted by OptimalZedd View Post
    nobody speak about the MP tick clock, which is asynchronous, mastering the tick can greatly improve your dmg

    thus TH3 is too long to cast, and you re delaying your fire phase, resulting in dps loss
    Agreed.
    Sync your casting rotation with the GCD along with mp tick to yeild the greatest Damage Optimization.
    It's very hard to explain. But that's the key point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taszilla View Post
    So hi to all i saw a lots off threads about the rotation about the black mage but no a singel one about the stats.

    I know you guys talking here about rotation but what you thinks are the best stats for a mage after int > hit ..... ?
    You want Critical Hit Rate as high as possible. Determination is okay, but you'll see much higher DPS by maxing out your Crit.

    To answer an earlier question, the reason that you use Blizzard 3 rather than transpose is because the cost and casting time is greatly reduced when you have 3 AF stacks. The same thing goes for Fire 3 when you have 3 UI stacks. Transpose is really only used if you cut your mp too close and you don't have enough to cast Blizzard III while your AF stacks are active.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Umero View Post
    Agreed.
    Sync your casting rotation with the GCD along with mp tick to yeild the greatest Damage Optimization.
    It's very hard to explain. But that's the key point.
    It's also impossible, since the GCD is 2.3-2.5 seconds, and the ticks are 3. You can't "sync" them.
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    there is also no reason to synch them during your rotation
    the only thing that can be "synched" with the mana-regen-tick is the switch from UI3 to AF3 - which is what most BLMs do by default after casting thunder1/2

    that means you shouldn't *finish* Fire3 before the second UI3 tick and you shouldn't wait for the second UI3 tick to appear before you start casting it
    and no, don't even try to simply transpose out of a flare cast without any procs available because you *think* you got the UI clock-tick right
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    Last edited by KrayZee; 10-24-2013 at 06:09 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PessimiStick View Post
    It's also impossible, since the GCD is 2.3-2.5 seconds, and the ticks are 3. You can't "sync" them.
    Well, I didn't mean that. I mean to "catch the flow"
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    Quote Originally Posted by RakaNishu View Post
    You want Critical Hit Rate as high as possible. Determination is okay, but you'll see much higher DPS by maxing out your Crit.

    To answer an earlier question, the reason that you use Blizzard 3 rather than transpose is because the cost and casting time is greatly reduced when you have 3 AF stacks. The same thing goes for Fire 3 when you have 3 UI stacks. Transpose is really only used if you cut your mp too close and you don't have enough to cast Blizzard III while your AF stacks are active.

    Transpose is also good when your last cast of fire spell is fire3 from firestarter. Do a transpose right after it and then scathe/thundecloud, and fire 3 again.
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    Open with Thunder 2, Fire 3, Fire spam (unless firestarter proc), Blizzard, Thunder 2, Fire 3, Fire 3 (If you do these back to back you get to quick cast both of them, and the second fire 3 hits with full T3 damage).

    You should never use Thunder 3 as it's only 1 DPS higher than Thunder 2, and cast locks you longer. Only apply thunder 3 off Thundercloud procs.

    Biggest boost in your DPS will be utilizing the two quick cast Fire 3s after your blizzard.

    When you go

    Blizzard

    Thunder 2

    Fire 3 (mid cast fire 3, your mana tops off perfect timing).

    Fire 3 (second smart cast)

    Fire

    (Firestarter on proc)

    Blizzard

    Repeat


    Expierence? Several parses over 400 DPS in AK/WP. And Over 300 DPS in Coil.

    Oh and AoE should be Fire 3 Fire 2 Fire 2 Fire 2 SwiftCast Flare Aetheral Swap (utilize the mana down time to drop in threat, because if your geared enough I've yet to have a tank hold threat through this). Repeat on mana top off.
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    do you even have enough mana for thunder 2 or even 1 if you cast 2x Fire3?
    because I know I wouldn't

    I cast my last fire1 with either ~1,1k or ~950 , depending on whether the *normal* manaregen kicks in or not
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    Last edited by KrayZee; 10-25-2013 at 01:14 AM.

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    Typically yes, but there are times it's barely too low, just get it on the next tick of mana regen.
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