Shroud of Saints is Broken...and NOT in a good way

[demhealsdoe]

So in terms of healer mana regeneration during combat, I am noticing a potential balance issue concerning Scholars vs. White Mages.

The White Mage ability, Shroud of Saints, restores a flat amount of mana back, and does not take into account gear upgrades, and stat increases. Meaning: A brand new level 50 WHM that is Naked (No Gear on) will restore the same amount of mana per tick as a WHM in full DL/Allagan.

Scholars have Aetherflow, which will restore mana equivalent to 20% of the caster's MP pool. Aetherflow at level 50 grants 3 stacks, which can then be used to cast another Ability to restore MP, "Energy Drain." Energy Drain will restore 50% of the damage dealt, as MP back to the caster, this amount is doubled by the Arcanist Trait, "Enhanced Energy Drain." Scholars can Use Cleric stance to increase the damage dealt by Energy Drain to increase MP restoration even more.

[Sephyrx]

Shroud of Saints is on a 2 minute CD. If you're popping that on CD whilst having 'decent' mana management with the spells you're using, you'll almost never go OOM. Chuck in the fact that with raiding you'll always have a Bard and bam, you'll never have Mana problems.
Therefore it doesn't matter if SoS doesn't scale with gear because we can rely on other things (eg. Bard song) for mana. If we didn't, then no class would need that song making yet another song of Bards useless.

[demhealsdoe]

Aetherflow is on a 60 second CD... you're helping me prove a point.

[hamsteak]

Aetherflow is on a 60 second CD... you're helping me prove a point.

and white mages have much better aoe heals, what's your point?

[Sephyrx]

Aetherflow is on a 60 second CD... you're helping me prove a point.

Do you want all classes to be the same with every spell having the same effect and CD?

[Swick]

It also has an aggro dump. And if a SCH wastes Aetherflows on energy drain our healing/mitigation is significantly hindered. You also get a plethora of free casts. Your comparing apples to oranges here... Can't just compare two abilities to each other and expect balance. There's a lot more going on then just two skills.

[Shuon]

corrct me if im wrong but the current system - better gear = better heals = lease mp used to heal the same amount i.e. it is alreary scaled since the same amount of mp returned allows u to heal more.

i dont have ach levelled so i cant comment on that unfortunately, but i just wanted to address the 'scaling' part

[Jarlax]

Its fine the way it is, having to manage your MP pool as well as your hate, is the trade of for being able to instantly repair a lost limb or everyone around you. Sure I guess you can say it sucks, but its supposed to otherwise there would be no challenge and I could fall asleep. Only break out the big guns when you have to and everything is fine.

[Garnatian]

Bards.

Scholars can Use Cleric stance to increase the damage dealt by Energy Drain to increase MP restoration even more.

No, it's the same MP regeneration regardless. It just increase HP regeneration.

If you really want the SCH's MP regen, can the SCH's get Medica I and II please?

[Bigpurpleharness]

Bards.



No, it's the same MP regeneration regardless. It just increase HP regeneration.

If you really want the SCH's MP regen, can the SCH's get Medica I and II please?

Fuck it, sure. And WHM can get Lustrates and their enmity split with a fairy. Oh, and then SCHs can get 18% stoneskin and mdef on protect, then WHMs can get two GCDs and mitigation tools!

... Don't act like the guy is asking for them to be the exact same. He's simply wondering why WHMs are the only healers who need to worry about mana.