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  1. #141
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    zakalw3's Avatar
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    Wren Zakalwe
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    I'm amazed people are actually calling for /less/ challenge for end game...

    I'm not even at end-game yet, and I'm looking forward to the learning curves, the frustrations and satisfaction, and all aspects of attempting to organise a large group. This kind of content is what end-game should be, something that requires knowledge and a little focus and skill and co-ordination.

    This isn't about catering for hardcore or casual, even a casual player will eventually be able to attain the gear required to take on the content. The content itself isn't difficult, no PVE is. It's all learning patterns and timing. The difficulty is finding players who understand this, have put in the effort to learn it, and can focus long enough to achieve it.

    Even causal players can get there. Don't base your view on the hardcore few who can rush this content due to having more time to focus on it. Look at it as a long term goal, as a challenge you'll be able to take up in time, and enjoy your journey there.

    Trust me, you'll appreciate the challenge when you get there.
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    Last edited by zakalw3; 10-13-2013 at 11:20 PM.

  2. #142
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    Kimimi Avesta
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    Hyperion
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    I think the problem with endgame is that you have a pretty reasonable and sensible learning curve from level 1 all the way up to Garuda HM, then you're brickwalled by Titan HM and *then* that thing most people have been using (and encouraged to use) all the time to progress through all other content during the game (Duty Finder) is completely pulled away from you because... because Yoshi P said so.

    Add genuinely unfair deaths to the mix due to the position checks issues and animation/cast bar desyncing and it's understandable where the TC's coming from.
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  3. #143
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    Quote Originally Posted by KimimiAvesta View Post

    Add genuinely unfair deaths to the mix due to the position checks issues and animation/cast bar desyncing and it's understandable where the TC's coming from.
    I think the OP would be fine if he could find a decent group. And this is more than possible by joining an active FC or sing /shout. He says he doesn't want to use the FC option, which is him basically gimping himself in a socially focused game like this. He has the tools and is refusing to use them.

    The server check issues are something else, these frustrate even the most tightly focused groups. I've not got to endgame yet, but even with a solid group for the dungeons at my level they can be annoying. Still, I don't think this is what the OP is addressing.

    Gear checks and filters for DF would go a long way to helping the OP, and should certainly be implemented, however he has tools he can use to make his life easier. He should use them.
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  4. #144
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    Sammy Twinskins
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    I hear gamestop sells games for which you are asking. They are called single player games.
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    It is true that it's too teamwork based, which is possibly the only problem, none of the dungeons are actually tough, it's just always a wipe fest with individuals who constantly bring a party down, which is an aspect they should have excluded in some form. It's kind of sad how if someone dies in a titan fight, it's pretty much a wipe, and the fight itself is easy dodging.
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  6. #146
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay9 View Post
    It is true that it's too teamwork based, which is possibly the only problem, none of the dungeons are actually tough, it's just always a wipe fest with individuals who constantly bring a party down, which is an aspect they should have excluded in some form. It's kind of sad how if someone dies in a titan fight, it's pretty much a wipe, and the fight itself is easy dodging.
    There's no such thing s as "too team work based". This is a massive part of what makes the content challenging and fun. We have tools at our disposal to ensure we get a group who knows what they're doing: Fc and /shout, and there are plenty of players around for both.

    When the DF gets an update and gear checks are introduced, it will be easier, but you can still do it now. There are plenty of FCs that do daily runs with no issues at all.
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  7. #147
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    Amanda Huggenkiss
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggles View Post
    Typical reply "Get better".

    My skill is fine, my point is getting 8 competent people together to play decently is problematic.
    ORLY?

    My Free Company currently has 7 statics clear of turn 4.
    Yes, that's 56 members.

    Twintania Extreme? (Yes, Please)
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    I like frog

  8. #148
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    Natiya Kyska
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    It would appear the op's qualms revolve around his inability to find uber people to basically carry him thru raids.

    Tough. Good players don't magically appear out of thin air.

    You must find those willing to dedicate themselves and learn, and run them thru it again again until each fight is drilled into their heads hard enough you can start to clear it flawlessly. You must be patient. You must be courteous. You must extend your arm and offer knowledge and support.

    Judging from this post's existence, you are none of these things. Perhaps you, too, have a lot to learn.
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  9. #149
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    Dufer Bloodmoon
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    Cactuar
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    Archer Lv 50
    It appears my post was deleted. 8 people playing to their best should be rewarded, and it is. 8 people playing sub-par shouldn't be rewarded, and it isn't at later content. The curve is fine and it shouldn't be dumbed down.
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    Dufer Bloodmoon, Seven of Cactuar.
    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/2391209/

  10. #150
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    Spacious Skies
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    Ultros
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    LOL try playing EverQuest where for some fights you needed 30+ players to do some raids.

    The WoW generation folks. Take a good look.
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