Speed-running cut-scene skippers...

[Braj]

Here's a tip for you. Open the duty finder and apply for CM.

Seriously, why are people here so carebearish? There are more than enough CM ...

If someone doesn't want to party with a-holes like you, that makes them carebearish? He's fine to wait as long as he feels is fit. He doesn't deserve insults flung at him from you for going at his own pace.

And he's right the cm/endgame community is bad. I was going off about how duty finder groups aren't bad from my first dungeon up to lvl 50. How most people were generally nice. But the instant I do cm, the major a-holes come out. First cm run I do people given shit for watching cut scenes, they feel they need to ride the paladin the whole dungeon for not knowing it yet, give him shit for pulling mobs we didn't "need," a healer refusing to heal new people, locking people out of fights, etc. My first Praetorium run wasn't any better either. I had to leave.

Sorry for wanting a nice game experience.

[Ryuko]

I will always defend people in DF who want to watch the cutscenes. No one should ever grief you for wanting to enjoy the story, whether it be verbal or otherwise. That said, there is absolutely nothing you can 'physically' do about people who initiate battles while you are still in a CS. All you can do is hope people are nice. =/

SE is going to have to take a stand eventually... either make cutscenes unskippable, or force people to 'wait' while others are watching cutscenes in a similar way to the little circular 'forcefield' that appears in the beginning. Or they could make a queuing option for wanting to watch cutscenes or not... OR automatically put anyone close to the room inside the room where a boss fight occurs so they don't get 'locked out' while they watch the cutscenes... maybe the 'timer' to get into the room before it is locked off could be extended.

My two cents... If people want a 'speedrun', they should prebuild a group. It is not hard at all to make a SR group at all hours of the day/night just by shouting in Revenant's Toll. I've been speed-running Praetorium all day... There is no reason to be rude to other human beings, y'know?

[Hawklaser]

Here is something to think about, the people that want to enjoy the CSs on their first run through CM or Prae. are likely only going to inconvenience two total groups, where as a speedrunner that uses DF is going to cause problems for who knows how many people doing it for the first time.


The pool of people wanting to experience the CSs will continuously shrink, while the speedrunner pool only grows. So if you actually take a little bit of time to slow down and help those first time people, you can actually build a better speedrunning community. Sometimes it helps to look a little farther out than 30m. As by actually letting them know what would be done in a speed run instead of expecting them to just pick it up from being left behind, will increase the number of good speeedrunners out there, but because people have not done this it has shown people they can AFK and get carried through the dungeon for free tomes. Not to mention how some treat the first timers may give them plenty of reason to troll other later speedrun groups.

So consider how speedrunning through the whole thing and not caring if the whole group is at bosses, and tearing into those that would like to watch the CSs has shaped the community for the endgame events.

[Deedsie]

But you can always youtube it and enjoy.

No flavor to it. It's not your character.

[KisaiTenshi]

Honestly I could care less if people want to watch the cutscenes or not. Just don't be both tanks.

When I first got to the last two level 50 dungeons, the ones people are speed running, I didn't skip the cutscenes on CM and they finished it without me, and even if I had tried to skip them, they still would have left me behind because the cutscene chain with the final boss was still loading when the tank pulled the boss.

So for the final dungeon I just skipped the cutscenes and watched them later.

[Alerith]

While I sympathize with both sides, Castrum Meridianum is still a Storyline dungeon. Because of this, I give the leeway to the people wanting to experience the story.

[elementxstyle]

Quite simple solution:

Castrum Meridianum (Story Mode)
Castrum Meridianum (Normal Mode)

[KuroNoKaze]

Quite simple solution:

Castrum Meridianum (Carebear Mode)
Castrum Meridianum (Jackass Mode)

I took the liberty of fixing it for you.

But seriously, I too think having 2 separate entries like that in the DF would be the most logical way to go.

Either that, or axe the tomes from the 2 story instances completely so speedrunners don't have a reason to run them anymore. Of course, this should go hand-in-hand with boosting the tome drops from WP and AK so the farmers don't get the dull point of the blade.

[Thagyr]

To be honest most of CM cut-scenes are turning off searchlights/being attacked by a gunship/intro generic boss number 3, which I wish didn't force you to go into movie mode to witness. Those things would be fine just having the game render them normally in my opinion as they are superfluous actions. Something like Prae however, with most of the cutscenes actually investing in the story and characters, are required if you want to really get the feeling of attacking the citadel of a invading force.

[eyloi]

they should put a little window that plays the cutscene while you're still playing. like a picture-in-picture that allows you to view while you continue playing.