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    Alcyon_Densetsu's Avatar
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    Alcyon Densetsu
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    This topic sounds like a chorus, you know that part of a song that always comes back.

    So I'll just throw my bridge, an old post I made on this very issue twenty days ago.

    My only advice would be to find a like-minded group, and there are two main ways you may find that i suppose.

    - Thinking ahead of endgame as a whole: find a nice Free Company (or LinkShell) in which, like mine, people are sincerely glad to run CM/Praetorium for their first timers with no pressure whatsoever ─strategy explained as icing on the cake. That's a long term approach you'll probably appreciate: you'll enjoy nice first times as well for Wanderer's Palace, Amdapor, all three Primordial fights, and so on. It really makes endgame that much more enjoyable to discover/run it in friendly company. Then you can give back, and participate in nice first runs for those of your companions who'll hit 50 after you. It's like a small ripple effect, win-win.

    - The shortest solution, should you not have a Free Company, is to sit a bit in front of the CM/Praetorium entrance, preferably on prime time / busy hours, and ask those that come (obviously for story purposes, like you) if they wish to do these dungeons while enjoying story telling. Maybe find (among your friend list, or in Mordona shouting) just one experienced player, a nice guy, who can fill you guys on fight tactics ─though not complicated at all, knowing a bit about these encounters will ensure they go smoothly.

    I'm pretty sure both these solutions can help alleviate the speed run issue on your first time; and through my former advice (Free Company or LinkShell), you'll get much more than a run or two, eventually. You'll get companions, even friends, for the long haul, and that is priceless. Some would even go as far as to say it's the real purpose of MMORPG; and I, for one, after more than a decade playing in permanent online worlds, can only concur with this vision.

    Best of luck to you, guys.
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    Raine Jaeger
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    If you wanna watch the cutscenes, then form a premade to watch them. Ditto with skipping them. But if you queue for random dungeon finder, be prepared to meet people with different opinions and playstyles than yourself. You dont need to make a thread everytime you dont get your way.
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    Supreme Being
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Its all good and well making these threads trying to rage over nothing
    your watching the cs one time , these ppl probably did this for the 100th time and got stuck with the CS watcher for the 20th time
    for the last few weeks i dint encounter anyone that wanted to watch the cs

    sad part is these ppl are usually the ppl that going to rage and harras ppl that want to watch cs later wen THEY are farming the instances

    instead of suggesting they make it obligated to watch the thing , make it a option in the dutyfinder screen that you dont want to skip cs and than it will only join you with other ppl that want to see the cs , have fun lfg for 20 hour because no one is going to do that
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    Last edited by supreme; 10-14-2013 at 01:00 AM.

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    ROOTFayth's Avatar
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    Delita Heiral
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    Behemoth
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    people speed running praetorium without making an arranged party are as dumb as bricks anyway, shoulda just ignored them

    I watched all the cutscene on my first run and gave 0 fucks about the complaints
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    No OP is right. You folks complained in beta against Speed Mode Dungeon in BETA. Now you have it. So let people watch there CS. Not happy ? Make a pre made group. Seriously learn to respect people around of you, there are people behind characters here, this is a not game where people will roll many alts. Think of your reputation.
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    Shiloh Everlost
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    Quote Originally Posted by HealBus View Post
    Going to wager quite a bit of Gil that most people that feel really entitled for the other 7 members to wait for them to watch a cutscene would probably be the same people getting really impatient when they are doing CM for the 40th time.
    You'll be having to pay up! I requested to watch the cutscenes and I'll be /sit any time someone else wants to on each and every run until they're done watching purely on principal.

    Of course, I also don't plan on farming these dungeons over and over and over again... There are other places to get tomestones after all. Maybe not as quick but you'll get there eventually.
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    Amyas Leigh
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    Ragnarok
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    Armorer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Caraway View Post

    Of course, I also don't plan on farming these dungeons over and over and over again... There are other places to get tomestones after all.
    Exactly. I can't stand seeing people mewl and whine about being forced to run CM over and over for their welfare gear. Run some TWP, AV, AK, DD with friends. Don't turn it into a job to get the best shinies.
    Or wait, do do that and leave the game after you've 'beat' it and leave the fun for those willing to have it, that could work too :P
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    Velvet Velour
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Caraway View Post
    You'll be having to pay up! I requested to watch the cutscenes and I'll be /sit any time someone else wants to on each and every run until they're done watching purely on principal.

    Of course, I also don't plan on farming these dungeons over and over and over again... There are other places to get tomestones after all. Maybe not as quick but you'll get there eventually.
    Exactly! I wish people would stop projecting so much in this thread. I wanted to enjoy the cut-scenes on my first run and I would respect anyone else who I partied with in the future that wanted to do the same. It's like these kids never learned to treat other people the way that they would want to be treated.
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    Lunaa Moon
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    Zodiark
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    I'm someone who skips cutscenes but I am always willing to wait if someone wants to watch them. However, since CM is very popular for speed runs for Philo tomes, it might be better to try and get a group of people who are doing it for the story, rather than randomly grouping up with people who are on their 45th speedrun. I know it takes way more time but if you want to enjoy the dungeon, right now its your only chance until they make AK or WP more viable for tome farming.
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    Ylisia Eniaru
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    Lamia
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    Gladiator Lv 30
    The more people whine about others watching cutscenes, the more I enjoy watching them.
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