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    IF it was that bad then there are two things you can do to try to stop this behaviour:

    1. Blacklist them.
    2. Report them for 'Harassment' via the Support Desk.

    The first one is easiest and best for things that aren't too bad, just that you can't be bothered to deal with them.

    The second one is if you actually want SE to deal with this behaviour to make the game a nicer environment overall.

    I'd suggest only using the second if it is completely out of hand and resorts to racism, xenophobia, homophobia or personal attacks that go beyond reason as put downs.

    It doesn't matter if someone is running it for the 1000th time. They are breaking the ToS and it is your choice on how you wish it to be dealt with. You have in-game ways to deal with this issue. Posting here will not solve the issue as you need to report individuals. The entire community isn't like this, it just so happens that you've got the few bad eggs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amused View Post
    Ruined the entire ending of the main story for me. I was completely and absolutely deprived of the true experience. They totally ruined the entire mood and atmosphere. Yet these same people had the nerve to talk down upon me (with profanity and other name-calling of course) when truthfully, they're the ones that are entirely in the wrong.

    This CANNOT be allowed to continue. If it were up to me, I'd simply perma-ban people like this for polluting the community. However, I suggest that Duty Finder dungeon runs should simply force cut-scenes that can't be skipped. If they want to speed run the instance the burden should be placed upon them to find other like-minded individuals rather than ruining the experience for other people.
    Very much agree. My Castrum part of my story mode was ruined due to that reason. Fortunely I had an ok group that actually waited for me in the final dungeon (praetorium).

    This is FF not WoW. Storymode should and will always have precedence over rushing in a FF game. And no, watching cutscenes in INN is not an acceptable solution for the first-timers; that's like watching cutscenes in FF6 without anything in between => the pacing get's off.

    The truly hardcore already do premade speed-runs, and so should the rest that consider themselves to be "hardcore".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amused View Post
    Ruined the entire ending of the main story for me. I was completely and absolutely deprived of the true experience. They totally ruined the entire mood and atmosphere. Yet these same people had the nerve to talk down upon me (with profanity and other name-calling of course) when truthfully, they're the ones that are entirely in the wrong.
    Why did you skip the cutscenes? That was your choice.
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    I Can’t Believe It, Miqo'te got some ass, I wanna see it. Roegadyn got a ass, It ain’t a secret.

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    You all are funny lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amused View Post
    Ruined the entire ending of the main story for me. I was completely and absolutely deprived of the true experience. They totally ruined the entire mood and atmosphere. Yet these same people had the nerve to talk down upon me (with profanity and other name-calling of course) when truthfully, they're the ones that are entirely in the wrong.
    did you tell them that they were depriving you of the 'true experience' before they started talking down to you?

    did you tell them you wanted the other 7 people to wait for you to watch your cutscenes because your time is more valuable than the 7 of theirs combined?

    if i was in that group, that would probably set me off too, and i would probably talk down to you.

    then again, when i DF cm, i do it as a tank, and i bring a healer from my fc with me - so we couldn't really care less who does/doesn't skip cutscenes, we're clearing ahead regardless

    but if someone is in cm for their first time, and they start getting lippy about me going too fast, i will probably respond, and it probably won't be polite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vmage View Post
    did you tell them that they were depriving you of the 'true experience' before they started talking down to you?

    did you tell them you wanted the other 7 people to wait for you to watch your cutscenes because your time is more valuable than the 7 of theirs combined?

    if i was in that group, that would probably set me off too, and i would probably talk down to you.

    then again, when i DF cm, i do it as a tank, and i bring a healer from my fc with me - so we couldn't really care less who does/doesn't skip cutscenes, we're clearing ahead regardless

    but if someone is in cm for their first time, and they start getting lippy about me going too fast, i will probably respond, and it probably won't be polite.
    Yes, because this is World of Warcraft and the story is certainly not the most important aspect of this game. Futhermore, this game also teaches us lorewise to behave like our enemies, the Garleans.

    Not to mention, it is certainly faster and more hardcore to use duty finder than to form your own group.

    So, yeah you are very right.

    Quote Originally Posted by LoLo View Post
    the devs havent even replied to the 100 of threads on this very subject. Good grief.

    Yes, because it is so hard to use the dev tracker and therefore impossible to find

    Quote Originally Posted by Camate View Post
    Greetings,

    The development team is aware that the benefits for defeating regular monsters in high level dungeons are not proportionate to the effort. They are also aware that dungeon runs can also be filled with players with conflicting goals (like enjoying the story versus doing a farming/speed run) that leads to it being difficult to enjoy the content. They feel that improvements in these areas are needed and are currently working on countermeasures for this.

    We will be sure to fill you in on the details in the near future.
    which of course does not exist at http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...25#post1355125.
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    Last edited by HurtigeKarl; 10-13-2013 at 08:42 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HurtigeKarl View Post
    Yes, because this is World of Warcraft and the story is certainly not the most important aspect of this game. Futhermore, this game also teaches us lorewise to behave like our enemies, the Garleans.

    Not to mention, it is certainly faster and more hardcore to use duty finder than to form your own group.

    So, yeah you are very right.
    who said anything about faster or hardcore?

    i just said that when i use the duty finder to do CM, i'm not waiting for anyone regardless of how many times they ask

    but if i'm going to the trouble to make a premade group, i'm going to do praetorium instead of CM anyways, it's faster if you bring DPS that aren't terrible
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    Quote Originally Posted by HurtigeKarl View Post
    vague reply by dev with vague possible fix on a date that hasn't been decided yet
    That reply doesn't help anything. Its vague and doesn't solve the main problem. Just promises something of a unknown fix in the future. When will that will be? next year? when next year? Why not sooner? Why not at 2.1? Why is there a wait to fix a major issue?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vmage View Post
    did you tell them that they were depriving you of the 'true experience' before they started talking down to you?

    did you tell them you wanted the other 7 people to wait for you to watch your cutscenes because your time is more valuable than the 7 of theirs combined?

    if i was in that group, that would probably set me off too, and i would probably talk down to you.

    then again, when i DF cm, i do it as a tank, and i bring a healer from my fc with me - so we couldn't really care less who does/doesn't skip cutscenes, we're clearing ahead regardless

    but if someone is in cm for their first time, and they start getting lippy about me going too fast, i will probably respond, and it probably won't be polite.

    All your reply shows is that you're a douchebag first class. Hope you're proud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cubester View Post
    All your reply shows is that you're a douchebag first class. Hope you're proud.
    i'm not really sure why you would think that, but you're entitled to your opinion.

    the way i see it, anytime i queue up for a CM, i've just shortened the wait time of all those dps going through it for their first time (although that's pretty rare, more often than not everyone at least has a primal weapon - which is unattainable before you've finished the story?)

    i don't really mind that they aren't thankful that i'm doing philanthropic CM clears for them, but if they're unhappy about me doing all the heavy lifting for them, i'll be unhappy right back at them :s
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