Relics are too easy to get

[Syncness]

It's not BiS.

Not for Summoners. The Allagan book for summoners is better because it doesn't waste stat on useless spell speed. Ditto for monk. Ditto for scholar.

Well in those cases, the BiS is relative hard to get (from Twintania), further strengthens my point that the relic+1 is easy to get in comparison.

[Yukagama]

Probably wouldn't be seeing quite as many folks running around with Relics if people weren't selling Titan runs. HM Titan is kind of a stupid/unskilled filter.

yeah everytime I see a FC selling titan run's it piss me off >.< it took me a week untel i can beat titan and now we have FC making gil of selling titan win's that suck.

[Andybell256]

i agree with tc relics are extremely easy to aqcuire once you have been doing end game enough philospohy points just kind of accumilate and the rest of the relic requirements can be done in around 2 hours, there should be a weapon type that not everyone should be able to get in a day.

Hopefully we will get some sort of mythic weapon that should be a rather long path to attain, this game rewards everyone without really trying and there isnt much to seperate the player base i.e. AF2 takes no skill to get just wait a few weeks and farm a easy dungeon the game needs more challenge and before someone says "beaten turn 5 yet?" no because of poorly implemented mechanics anyone doing the fight actually understands this and if twisters werent such a mess twintania woudl have been downed legit by now, apart from turn 5 the rest of the game is lol easy mode, hell even turns 1-4 take roughly an hour.

[Janda]

5 is doable I think (Tank, healer, 3xDPS), but 4 I really doubt it although I'd like to see someone try it..

You're probably going to need L2 or 3 limit break to take down the heart which you will have to build up before, you'll need a BRD for ballad as MP usage will get worse as the fight goes on just surviving stomps.

The biggest problem I think will be Granite Gaol, if your healer gets it then 2 DPS might struggle to break them out quickly enough (while avoiding Landslide aswell) to be able to get the tank healed up before Rock > Mountain Buster, not to mention that stomps are immediately after this.

I also would have presumed in such a scenario that lb would be used on heart but then you are left with the problem of 1 healer and no LB during phase 5 in which he increasingly stomps more often which i do not think 1 healer could manage.

[Hik0]

I also would have presumed in such a scenario that lb would be used on heart but then you are left with the problem of 1 healer and no LB during phase 5 in which he increasingly stomps more often which i do not think 1 healer could manage.

they talk about people with relic+1, some AF+1/CoB gear (i90 for an average ilvl>80) when pug titan are @best i70.
they have more HP/ def=> they can survive more stomps
their healer have more MP and heal more HP/cure
and outside of LB their3DD overDPS the4pugDDs

[Janda]

they talk about people with relic+1, some AF+1/CoB gear (i90 for an average ilvl>80) when pug titan are @best i70.
they have more HP/ def=> they can survive more stomps
their healer have more MP and heal more HP/cure
and outside of LB their3DD overDPS the4pugDDs

Then again i go back to my point about how this defeats the purpose of the brag of killing titan in the first place as they speak about requiring the kind of gear that u wouldnt otherwise have till AFTER titan. This falls into the mentality ppl have about how some shouldnt run AK without having DL even though AK drops ilvl60 where as DL is ilvl70.

Its getting to the point where like in ffxi they want you to have a delve weapon to be able to attend delves in the first place and this started occuring within couple of weeks of delves going live.

I am sure many would agree with me that a more skillful group isnt the one thats overgeared and kills something faster but rather the one thats only just geared to be able to handle it and still comes out ontop with having to fight for longer with weaker dps, weaker heals and weaker tanks.

TLDR: A challenge/hard fight is only what you make of it. It is not FACT that because 1 person found it easy that then so should everyone else. Overgear for something and you will roflstomp it. Undergear for it and you give urself a challenge on purpose. Player skills may vary.

[Otoha]

This game is easy in general, you know that when you see FCs, out of boredom sitting around on of Friday night giving away free titan wins.

If you think this game is anything above easy, you must suck at games in general, and this game is perfect for you.

[Lumines]

Observe the internet tough guys in their natural habitat. They require e-peen attention that is greater than or equal to 3 times their weight daily in order to sustain themselves. Alright class, the reptile habitat is next!

[Vili]

Who is to say they don't have a FFXI style Relic planned? I have never considered these weapons Relics, more like AF weapons. I never obtained a Relic in FFXI, but I would still like to see something like them. Personally, I don't care if they nerf Titan. They will just hurt more in Coils.

[Avalon_Albrook]

the relic+1 is the best weapon in game (better then majority of all coil weapons).

Its a joke how easy they are to obtain...
titan HM is like EXTREMELY EASY to do... im pretty sure my fc can likely 4-5 man it easily...

my first victory on titan, entire pt was pretty much only geared in AK gear and with ifrit weapons...
It was still easy back then. Just took alittle practice to learn the fight and rotation...

this game is already WAY too easy...
and ive heard that primals are getting nerfed? WHAT!?

why dont u just make healers only have to use 1 skill to heal whole pt for full hp with infinite mana, make a 1 button to hold aggro on everything 100% as tank?
if i wanted to play wow, id go play that...

there should NOT be ANY nerfs to any difficulty in the game yet...

I think this counts as masturbation.