Well in those cases, the BiS is relative hard to get (from Twintania), further strengthens my point that the relic+1 is easy to get in comparison.
Wexism Sync - Tonberry (JP) - Eikon
http://www.xivarmory.com/character/2501717
WHM Healing Spreadsheet
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/107651-WHM-Healing-Spreadsheet
This. What is the point of even downing Twintania at this point if all we get are weapons on par or in some cases MODERATELY better aside from bragging rights and continuation to the eventual turn 6?
Edit: obviously the missing Allagan armor/accessories too.
Last edited by Roomba; 10-15-2013 at 01:25 PM.

Cool story bro,the relic+1 is the best weapon in game (better then majority of all coil weapons).
Its a joke how easy they are to obtain...
titan HM is like EXTREMELY EASY to do... im pretty sure my fc can likely 4-5 man it easily...
my first victory on titan, entire pt was pretty much only geared in AK gear and with ifrit weapons...
It was still easy back then. Just took alittle practice to learn the fight and rotation...
this game is already WAY too easy...
and ive heard that primals are getting nerfed? WHAT!?
why dont u just make healers only have to use 1 skill to heal whole pt for full hp with infinite mana, make a 1 button to hold aggro on everything 100% as tank?
if i wanted to play wow, id go play that...
there should NOT be ANY nerfs to any difficulty in the game yet...![]()
i agree with tc relics are extremely easy to aqcuire once you have been doing end game enough philospohy points just kind of accumilate and the rest of the relic requirements can be done in around 2 hours, there should be a weapon type that not everyone should be able to get in a day.
Hopefully we will get some sort of mythic weapon that should be a rather long path to attain, this game rewards everyone without really trying and there isnt much to seperate the player base i.e. AF2 takes no skill to get just wait a few weeks and farm a easy dungeon the game needs more challenge and before someone says "beaten turn 5 yet?" no because of poorly implemented mechanics anyone doing the fight actually understands this and if twisters werent such a mess twintania woudl have been downed legit by now, apart from turn 5 the rest of the game is lol easy mode, hell even turns 1-4 take roughly an hour.
This game is easy in general, you know that when you see FCs, out of boredom sitting around on of Friday night giving away free titan wins.
If you think this game is anything above easy, you must suck at games in general, and this game is perfect for you.
Observe the internet tough guys in their natural habitat. They require e-peen attention that is greater than or equal to 3 times their weight daily in order to sustain themselves. Alright class, the reptile habitat is next!
Who is to say they don't have a FFXI style Relic planned? I have never considered these weapons Relics, more like AF weapons. I never obtained a Relic in FFXI, but I would still like to see something like them. Personally, I don't care if they nerf Titan. They will just hurt more in Coils.


I think this counts as masturbation.the relic+1 is the best weapon in game (better then majority of all coil weapons).
Its a joke how easy they are to obtain...
titan HM is like EXTREMELY EASY to do... im pretty sure my fc can likely 4-5 man it easily...
my first victory on titan, entire pt was pretty much only geared in AK gear and with ifrit weapons...
It was still easy back then. Just took alittle practice to learn the fight and rotation...
this game is already WAY too easy...
and ive heard that primals are getting nerfed? WHAT!?
why dont u just make healers only have to use 1 skill to heal whole pt for full hp with infinite mana, make a 1 button to hold aggro on everything 100% as tank?
if i wanted to play wow, id go play that...
there should NOT be ANY nerfs to any difficulty in the game yet...
It's almost like the more you practice something, the better you get at it, and the easier that particular task becomes. This will surely revolutionize everything we understand about how learning works. Good work OP.
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