Relics are too easy to get

[silentwindfr]

one more time (and that was said a lot of time while the beta) FF14=/= FF11, FF11 is still running.

other point it's greatly possible that at the 2.2 the "relics" become obsolete with the new floor for BC.

[Yagrush]

I wouldn't doubt another Relic upgrade needing Good King Mog and the Extreme Modes of the Primals, as the game progresses and upgrades keep coming in, it could culminate into the true relic weapon at some point in 2.3 or even 3.0, with much more unique stats and stuff. I can only hope.

[Emtron]

Why do other people give two flying fucks about what other people accomplish in a video game, worry about you and yours and leave the rest of us alone, its just plain retarded to fixate on oh this is getting nerfed for the newbs that aren't as good as me or my friends or my company I mean really who gives a crap its a video game just play it and stfu damn gamers can be real assholes sometimes.

[Senchai]

Just trolling i guess.... At the point where he wrote the post not many Fc could 4-man Titan. I doubt hes one one them honestly. Hes just sad that he cant be much more advanced gearwise with his 23h/ day playtime compared to someone with only 5h/day.

Still, ppl that play the game some hours per day (even that is a lot) still need ages and a lot of patience to get the Relic. Even more if the FC is not uber.

[PiedPiper]

So you hate doing dungeons ? do you like crafting ? Maybe even mining is more for you

Oh I love doing dungeons. I just hate doing them for the relic payment. I know it sounds weird, i just... its a weapon you know. its your ulitmate (ish) weapon, the very symbol of your roll. It involves killing gods and demons, scouring the land for signs of history and wisdom. You finally clear titan (which is a really big deal the first time you do it, lets all be honest. Sure its easy time 900, but time 1 is special)... you have done it. You have sundered the very heavens. Now go do castrum 9 times cus by the time you've done titan you arne't massively out geared for that or anything <.< Its just so anit-climatic, so... droll. I feel it really ruins the experience.

[IamBenpi]

The only thing I wish they would add to the relic quest is a solo fight, Maat style. You can be carried through Titan, no one can carry you through a solo fight. I actually think it should be for the +1 version, not the standard relic.

I'm not saying this because I care how hard/easy it is for others to get their relic, the more people who have it the more likely any pugs I join will have good dps, healing capacity, threat management capacity etc. (not necessarily skill, but that's a different issue). I say I'd like to see that simply because the +1 version is currently the ultimate weapon for your class, and getting it over the standard relic, challenge-wise, is very anticlimactic. I mean beating Titan that first time is huge! Beating AK 50 times or whatever isn't. The fight doesn't need to be insanely hard, and I would say despite being after Titan, should probably be easier in general, but be more job specific, like the job quests are (to an extent anyway).

That's just my opinion though, so probably not worth much to anyone but me =P

[PiedPiper]

The only thing I wish they would add to the relic quest is a solo fight, Maat style. You can be carried through Titan, no one can carry you through a solo fight. I actually think it should be for the +1 version, not the standard relic.

That would be pretty cool. I really like the idea of gear being a reward for challenging kills rather than grinding. I love the token system, but peices like relic... I don't get why we should grind for a quest. Old school Maat for many jobs was very hard, that could be very fun. It would also be a little more off-class friendly (leave all af2/heros gear on the mythic, just let us +1 the weapon by demonstrating mastery over teh class). Make the fights super hard, like, cry blood tears of rage hard if necessary. That said, leave ilvl80 titan alone. It is an MMO, we can be expected to be in a group for a hard fight. It would be a nice balance, first you show you can excell in group content, then show you are personally qualified to carry the symbol of your class.

[testa889]

OP if you find it so easy yourself , time to throw away your ilv70+ gear and start wearing halloween costume in coil and beat it
its been day1 crystal clear that ff14 is toward casual gamers.
i find it hard on end game content but dont need a nerf

why dont SE makes a hardcore server and if you die, your toon dies with you like diablo hardcore, along with mobs buff.
hows that sound

[Pesmergia]

No one cares how easy YOU think it is. Because YOU are, (and were in whatever MMO), in a PRO linkshell/guild and come here and farm content easy, does not mean a majority of the world sacrifices 5 hours a day in this game, or even raids or even has any knowledge of raiding period in this MMO. I garauntee I am part of the majority here, and I barely get on more than an hour a day, if that.

You are part of what DESTROYS MMOS, the elitists that think everything is so easy, and BURNS through content, because they have nothing better to do with their LIFE, they spend 1/6th of their life (which is 4 hours a day) (you sleep another 1/4 of it away if you sleep 6 hours a night/day) on MMOs while everyone with responsibilities, families, jobs, children, and other hobbies like going to church, sports, and doing house chores like washing clothes and cleaning, besides sitting on their rear end in front of the same game everyday, and a majority OF the day they aren't at work or asleep.

[Pesmergia]

There IS a surprising and laughable number of people who do this, but still NOT part of the majority. If you burn through content, and get overgeared, and these overgeared people help with relic quests, of course it's going to be easier. It should be easier, for the casuals. Why? Because 1st off, we will NEVER achieve the gear level of the hardcore. You will ALWAYS be 3 steps ahead of us. So why do you care?

Just because some casual has a relic +1, and is sitting in full 10/10 DL gear, while you are macking the allagan gear, which, is obtainable MUCH faster than AF+1, doesn't mean anything. AF+1 requires a week wait for 300 tomes, which takes absolutely FOREVER to grind. Once you pros get T4 on farm, you can get as much as you want, and replace gear at a MUCH faster rate.

Even casuals have DPS checks, gear checks, and skill checks (See Titan HM), but that is only for relic weapon, that even the professionals had a hard time with when they started.