Quote Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1 View Post
how is the way it is set now limiting you anymore than the new way would limit them?
I never said it was limiting. I said it wasn't fun, it was mindless, and it is too easy to create an automatic botting program to do it.

Quote Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1 View Post
you want to take the system and make it what you want and say you don't care what they want.
No, I want to take the crafting system we have now and fix it so that we can retain the positive aspects about it while removing/improving the negative aspects.


Quote Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1 View Post
crafting is meant to be a chore to do.
Is it too much to ask that this chore be made to be fun to do? I say no.


Quote Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1 View Post
if you make crafting too easy or fast you will have the crafters completing the game, making more money, having better gear faster than you will as a battle class.
So then tweak the SP gained so that the players rank up at an appropriate pace, as per what I said about normalized SP/hour vs crafting actions done.


Quote Originally Posted by Physic View Post
it might be fun to you or me, but to some they would may hate it, they also might have complaints like it isnt immersive, i might enjoy a mini game that revolves around chess, but many would hate it.
"might" have complaints that it isn't immersive? What's so immersive about what we have now? What's so immersive about pressing "normal synth" a bajillion times in a row? Are these hypothetical complaints somehow more important that the REAL and ACTUAL complaints people have now about the crafting system?

And what does chess have to do with crafting?

Quote Originally Posted by Physic View Post
like the shooting gallery, or a beat sim game or any of the million types of games that are generally fun, but that would alienate all the people who dont find them fun/arent good at those type of games, and the people who would say that doing something besides hammering a peice of metal repeatedly isnt what blacksmithing should be about.
Again, hypotheticals. What about all the people who are alienated RIGHT NOW because of this terrible excuse for gameplay.