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    Yes nerf the only thing that needs some effort in game ......

    Omg...so depressing....

    In the History of FF games, ffxiv is the easiest, by a large margin ..... why do you wanna change the FF culture???

    Go play something else....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drex View Post
    Yes nerf the only thing that needs some effort in game ......

    Omg...so depressing....

    In the History of FF games, ffxiv is the easiest, by a large margin ..... why do you wanna change the FF culture???

    Go play something else....
    Perhaps you didn't read my main complaints?

    My main problem with it all is that given the speed in which one levels in War/Magic, you spend a disproportional amount of time crafting if you desire to have it around the level where it's actually useful for your War/Magic disciplines.

    I'm not saying to make the game easier. I'm saying one way of making it match with the speed in which War/Magic levels, you either have to slow down War/Magic, or speed up Land/Hand. Either that, or make the 10x more time you spend crafting/traveling for crafting in this game more fun so that you don't care that you're spending so much time doing it.

    If everything else was as hard as crafting was, I wouldn't have as much of a problem with it. I'm sure most people would be complaining about EVERYTHING being too slow if that were the case though.

    To summarize, I think if you were to keep things about the same pace, we would just be spending more time out in the game world having fun. Fast or slow, it needs to be balanced out.
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    Last edited by rekijitsu; 05-16-2011 at 08:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drex View Post
    Yes nerf the only thing that needs some effort in game ......

    Omg...so depressing....

    In the History of FF games, ffxiv is the easiest, by a large margin ..... why do you wanna change the FF culture???

    Go play something else....
    The point is that crafting is boring and mindless.

    I'm sure the devs can create a system that is both HARD and FUN at the same time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rentahamster View Post
    The point is that crafting is boring and mindless.

    I'm sure the devs can create a system that is both HARD and FUN at the same time.
    It isn't hard. It's time consuming. There is a huge difference between the two. The difficulty in crafting is not the process itself, but rather how long you can last without gouging out one of your eyes.

    Making it faster isn't really making the game any easier, it's just making it more bearable given how little fun it is to partake in. I also sincerely doubt any dev can make it any more fun than it already is, at least it's decent when you're making something worthwhile. I doubt they can make it more fun, and if they can't, it really needs to be sped up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rekijitsu View Post
    I also sincerely doubt any dev can make it any more fun than it already is ...I doubt they can make it more fun,
    Creating a fun game mechanic isn't beyond the realm of impossibility.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rentahamster View Post
    Creating a fun game mechanic isn't beyond the realm of impossibility.

    well i think part of the problem is so many different ideas of what is fun, and also it cant be that skill based, or require intense mental gymnastics, otherwise people who want to be crafters may not have the requisite skills, or the type of thinking to deal with the puzzles. So they come up with something thats more like slight strategy and a bit of control with random elements, that doesnt go too far out of the box of what crafting is.

    I mean i would love a more entertaining mini game, but i think if any one came up with a game, there would be a bunch that hate it, whereas this one, although people find it boring, no one outright hates, or is fundamentally unequipped to deal with the process.

    This is why i think they probably would need to keep the vanilla crafting mini games, and make a new ones as an optional means of crafting.
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    I dont or never felt that is slow to begin with, the very ppl who complaint is because of the repetitive stuff that make it a bored and because you need to glue your eye to make sure that you spam the key that make ppl annoyed and bored. So the repetitive part is what the most thing that ppl complaint... :P
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    It would not feel "slow" if...

    - standard wasn't the only action that consistently works.
    - the special crafting "moves/actions" actually did anything whatsoever.
    - I didn't have to listen to that wretched crafting music the whole time
    - I wasn't surrounded by bots out-leveling me day after day after day...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geldt View Post
    It would not feel "slow" if...

    - standard wasn't the only action that consistently works.
    - the special crafting "moves/actions" actually did anything whatsoever.
    - I didn't have to listen to that wretched crafting music the whole time
    - I wasn't surrounded by bots out-leveling me day after day after day...
    standard isn't the only action that consistently works.

    the special moves do work and work quite well.

    the music in the entire game in general(besides mor dhona area) is horrible

    this one i do agree with, but bots are in every game not just this one.
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    Player Geldt's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1 View Post
    standard isn't the only action that consistently works.

    the special moves do work and work quite well.

    the music in the entire game in general(besides mor dhona area) is horrible

    this one i do agree with, but bots are in every game not just this one.
    All my problems are solved! This game is AWESOME!!!!!
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