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    Crystal tower query

    right, im aware that coil doesnt use DF to make a group, and this is a 8 man instance

    now im hoping that CT is also only be made so that you have a premade group, let me go over some aspects.

    im hoping this is the main end game content, and that FC should be actively recruiting for this, and that the raid has 24 organised raiding in mind, not 1 hour DF stints and then thats it, make this like wow raids where you need to have a FC that is organised on a schedule to beat it, pugging isnt bad, but shouldnt be the main factor in how raids like this should be implemented
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    on top of this, FC should be given better recruitment tools and hopefully if needed, we can replace players mid raid if needed due to what ever issues arises and allow addons to be made usuable, FC leaders and more importantly raid leaders should see what other people are doing in terms of output, some FC will have set bars and standards and its up to them what those should be, not others, and if and nasty as this may sound, it allows the leaders to replace such people with new recruits who can show that they can do decent output, skill in dodging is harder to check for as damage taken and breaking down what hit people is the only way to check for this
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    hoping the raid is large, and will incur a weekly lockout, we need more FC organised raids that arent 8 man, not saying the content needs to be uber hard, just saying hoping this content will be more catered for organised groups and not pugging with random people, thats a bad model to base on, people can freely choose what FC is best suited for them as there are recruitment boards as such on forums.

    organising 23 people with random people is a nightmare anyways, im hoping there will be better management of a roster coming up as well, also hoping there are more 24 man raids in the pipe line too, and this will be the main raiding format
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    http://ffxiv.junkiesnation.com/2013/...-2-qa-session/
    Q. How are the Binding Coil of Bahamut and Crystal Tower different?
    A. Even with the release of patch 2.1, the Binding Coil of Bahamut will be the hardest content in the game. The Crystal Tower will be more casual, as it can also be accessed via the Duty Finder.

    I can tell you now, my FC will be making pre-mades regardless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swishytail View Post
    http://ffxiv.junkiesnation.com/2013/...-2-qa-session/
    Q. How are the Binding Coil of Bahamut and Crystal Tower different?
    A. Even with the release of patch 2.1, the Binding Coil of Bahamut will be the hardest content in the game. The Crystal Tower will be more casual, as it can also be accessed via the Duty Finder.

    I can tell you now, my FC will be making pre-mades regardless.
    im hoping they change it, or at least change how DF works with people outside the group and how the current progress is saved
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    Quote Originally Posted by raelgun View Post
    im hoping they change it, or at least change how DF works with people outside the group and how the current progress is saved
    Yeah. I'm not necessarily bashing DF, there have been times I've used it that it's gone in a positive manner. However, it's a Postive-Negative 20%-80% split.. and
    that's only with 8-mans. I can't even imagine 24-mans and having 5 people go AFK or /follow. -_-;
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    finding random people shouldnt be a major part, we should have the power to use our roster if needs be, and its up to us to manage the roster, having to use the DF will not work for this, as you need to exit the whole damn thing and start all over again which telsl me this raid wont be using a weekly lock out and designed to be beaten in like 1 hour, guilds in wow on average raid 3 nights a week with around 3 hours of raid time at a set time, this is the most common raiding schedule you will find for most guilds, the playerbase can develop this and such can experience the content properly like this, this is proper organisation
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    Crystal Tower will be a face roll for all FCs which have any organization. In order to get addons we would need SE to make their API public, it may happen eventually but it won't be too soon. Go check out FFXIVAPP for a good parser to monitor damage/heal output. I'll be doing pre-made raids for this content but if I didn't I would be very uneasy about using a random group finder for 24 total people...

    Point is, raid guilds have the tools they need; we definitely don't need any kind of in-game boss mod / recount / threat meter / etc for this game, not for current content at least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Horg View Post
    Crystal Tower will be a face roll for all FCs which have any organization. In order to get addons we would need SE to make their API public, it may happen eventually but it won't be too soon.
    You must be new to SE. They will never release their API. Ever. Any mods made on previous SE titles were made with:
    1. Insider knowledge
    2. Reverse engineering
    3. Common knowledge application (parsers, etc.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinth View Post
    You must be new to SE. They will never release their API. Ever. Any mods made on previous SE titles were made with:
    1. Insider knowledge
    2. Reverse engineering
    3. Common knowledge application (parsers, etc.)
    They've said a long time ago that they are going to release add on support
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