AFK'ing and Leeching in Dungeons - Castrum Meridianum

[AlmaMalma]

Just had a player afk in CM - he'd done the same before in a run I was in. It was clear by when we got to the wall Cid blasts that he was leeching. So several 'Abuse of Game Mechanics' reports from the party members and 10 minutes later, he was ejected from it by a GM and a proper player was substituted in from DF queue. So report, takes a couple minutes out of the run time but denies a leech free tomestones, and hopefully earn them a nice ban!

[MrObject]

Just had a player afk in CM - he'd done the same before in a run I was in. It was clear by when we got to the wall Cid blasts that he was leeching. So several 'Abuse of Game Mechanics' reports from the party members and 10 minutes later, he was ejected from it by a GM and a proper player was substituted in from DF queue. So report, takes a couple minutes out of the run time but denies a leech free tomestones, and hopefully earn them a nice ban!

While I don't doubt that the system worked for you, it doesn't work that way all the time. I've have entire CM groups report (or at least said they do) someone who literally stated at the beginning that they were just there for free tomes and they stayed there the entire run without any GM removing them from the group. Now you know what would have easily gotten them removed, vote kick.

[Naberrie]

"Go f*ck myself" when I ask them to change because their gear isn't spiritbound yet

Just curious, why does their gear need to be 100% spirit bound for CM? I'm curious because I just dinged 50 and a FC mate keeps asking me to do CM. There's no way my AF body is 100%. Probably only 5%. Haven't really done anything on BRD since I dinged 50 and got the body piece. Been busy crafting, farming and leveling WHM.

[BlossomRose]

While I don't doubt that the system worked for you, it doesn't work that way all the time. I've have entire CM groups report (or at least said they do) someone who literally stated at the beginning that they were just there for free tomes and they stayed there the entire run without any GM removing them from the group. Now you know what would have easily gotten them removed, vote kick.

Stop whining about vote kick, it's coming.

They're just trying to figure out how to make it hard to abuse so people don't kick people for not being in full DL/relic gear or for watching cutscenes.

And either way, there you go. AFKing is against the rules. That idiot who said it was fine... geez.

[Nymina]

While you are not complaing about people who are there for the first time watching a cutscene, a vote to kick option will be a horrible idea for just this reason.

I did CM for the first time today, and stated as much at the very beginning and that "I will be watching all the cutscenes." The whole run I had to hear shit about "I wish there was a vote to kick option" concerning me being there to watch the cutscenes and do the dungeon for the first time. This was a duty finder group as well, where you should let people watch the cutscenes when it's their first time through. This feature will be completely abused by asshats to the detriment of people wanting to enjoy the game the way it was meant to be played.

And don't give me this bullshit about "Oh, you can just watch the cutscenes in your Inn Room." That's not the fucking same experience.

[BlossomRose]

While you are not complaing about people who are there for the first time watching a cutscene, a vote to kick option will be a horrible idea for just this reason.

I did CM for the first time today, and stated as much at the very beginning and that "I will be watching all the cutscenes." The whole run I had to hear shit about "I wish there was a vote to kick option" concerning me being there to watch the cutscenes and do the dungeon for the first time. This was a duty finder group as well, where you should let people watch the cutscenes when it's their first time through. This feature will be completely abused by asshats to the detriment of people wanting to enjoy the game the way it was meant to be played.

And don't give me this bullshit about "Oh, you can just watch the cutscenes in your Inn Room." That's not the fucking same experience.

That's why SE is taking their time designing it so that this can't happen.

[Andriel]

Just curious, why does their gear need to be 100% spirit bound for CM? I'm curious because I just dinged 50 and a FC mate keeps asking me to do CM. There's no way my AF body is 100%. Probably only 5%. Haven't really done anything on BRD since I dinged 50 and got the body piece. Been busy crafting, farming and leveling WHM.

Equipment needs a 100% spirit bond to be converted into materia. These players do that to acquire materia, not more.

[Andriel]

Seriously.. Who the hell thought a 1000-character limit on posts would be a good idea?

I've had healers in full crafting gear telling me to; "Go f*ck myself" when I ask them to change because their gear isn't spiritbound yet, and just 2 decent runs without issue!

Why would you care about their gear anyway? They're doing their job and you should be happy for it. When they're geared good enough to not wear their equipment, don't expect them to.
Personally, I often run around there in a bikini.. Because I can, because it's fun and because it's the only way I don't generate more enmity than the tank(s) do.

[Naberrie]

Equipment needs a 100% spirit bond to be converted into materia. These players do that to acquire materia, not more.

I know that, but I'm not sure why having gear that's not spiritbound yet is an issue. I've never heard that before. Aside from reaching 100% so it can can be converted I've never heard of a use for it, nor why not having it would be an issue.

[Grailer]

I know that, but I'm not sure why having gear that's not spiritbound yet is an issue. I've never heard that before. Aside from reaching 100% so it can can be converted I've never heard of a use for it, nor why not having it would be an issue.

Maybe it was really bad crafted gear and they were slowing down group just to get 100% so they could convert .