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    Furious George
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    Im a 50 and its time to do HM Titan. Help me put on the big boy pants.

    I need a bit of fundamental help on my abilities, since I feel there are some grey areas I encounter which I am unsure of when to pop my cool downs.

    I was hoping that you guys could help explain the optimal times when to use abilities for this fight and fights in general so that I may eventually educate myself/practice and bring my Warrior game to the next level.

    Gear: Full Darklight except for my jewelry, which I am eventually replacing with DL (right now I'm wearing 4 hoplite, 1 darklight accessories). My total hp in tank mode is 6653 hp.

    Inner Beast: Sometimes I am unsure when to blow IB on situations that are not after being dealt a large portion of damage (or to top off before Mountain Buster if my healer is unable to). Also, I am unsure if a situation other than being almost killed, merits I should blow IB when infuriate is not in reserve. Should IB ever be used to keep me topped off, or should I simply reserve the 10% crit and 15% healing until needed?
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    Infuriate: Other than in emergencies, or when I need to keep my 15% healing/10 % crit going, is there ever another time to use this cool down?

    Foresight: The ability is very vague. I try to blow it when something big is coming, however, I wonder if I should be using this during sustained damage phases in a fight if my healer needs to catch up. Should I also stack this CD on top of another, or simply blow it by itself?

    Berserk: Other than blowing this when I need to get a massive heal off, when is another time to use this ability? Due to its nature I am a bit reserved to use it, as the pacify effect is very annoying, and at times down right scary to encounter. Should I ever be using Berserk if I don't use IB, such as in situations where I'm only going to use Blood bath?

    Blood Bath: I use this a lot just to keep my health high in between big bursts or to add in to my health regen. What is the optimal time to use this ability?
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    Convalescence: I've been using this if I know a big burst is coming or if get some bad RNG and take too many crits, and the healer needs help catching up. What is the optimal way to use this ability, and should I consider stacking it with foresight or feather foot to increase its effects? Additionally, I don't believe it does, but does this increase the health gain from abilities like I.B., Blood bath, or Second Wind enough to justify blowing them in unison?

    Thrill of Battle: Is there any other way to use this ability optimally other than when anticipating big burst damage or in an emergency from taking RNG crits?

    Thanks for your help and please feel free to be as descriptive as possible. The more information the better.
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    For Titan specifically?

    Doing nothing but DPS/build threat until after the heart phase at which point prepare to soil yourself and work hard.

    The first move out of heart is mountain buster (~4.5k attack), you need to be full health to live through these. After the first it always goes; auto (~800) > cleave, called rock buster (~1.8k) > auto (~800) > MB. If you don't receive ample healing you will die. I recommend ALWAYS having an IB ready and popping after the cleave, it should almost top you up. Your HP is a tad low though, so I would rotate a single cooldown on before each MB on top of the IB. Anything would work, infuriate, foresight, thrill should all take the edge off (even a pot). As long as you're full after the cleave you'll probably pull through. If you're topped before the MB hits use the IB to help you get back to full, especially if it's the MB before the tumults. Oh and use convalescence before the MB.

    I also don't recommend trying to hard to dodge the bombs, just pop a CD and tank it if it's not simple to dodge (don't tank 2 though for the love of god make sure only one will hit you). Dragging titan around the map is the quickest way to wipe a PUG group in human history.
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    Kori Fleming
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    Some advice from my experience:

    - Don't feel like you NEED 3 healers, 2 can keep you topped up just fine and that will leave room for 1 more DPS to contribute to heart killing. Obviously if you DF it you'll get another tank which is still better than 3 healers.

    - Mountain Buster can be pretty terrifying the first time. When you get to this point, make sure to use whatever 1 or 2 cooldowns you've got available to mitigate some of the damage. He'll always do it after a left cleave so when you see that you know what's coming next. There's a lot you can do in this situation - keeping featherfoot on cooldown is a good idea, as well as bloodbath. IB > Infuriate > IB > HS > Vengence> SS > BB > etc is solid to do after the MB, and you can just do IB > Infuriate before the MB if you aren't properly topped up and then another after the MB. ToB + Convalescence is a good combo, use this when you can after a MB. Foresight before is obviously something you should do if it's available to you. Second Wind (though a small health increase) is an option if you're running low on things to pop and I'm pretty sure it can be combined with Berserk to increase the healing potential. Make sure to get up a Maim > Storm's Eye before you do your IB if possible as it will make a good amount of difference if you can - don't feel like you NEED to, though.

    - Tell any WHM/SCH/SMN in the group to put up Virus on Titan before he does his MB. (Note: Virus doesn't stack, it only adds time each use, so you'll likely only need 1) This will be EXTREMELY helpful. Bard also has a debuff but I forget the name.

    - Though only slightly more difficult (and I guess sort of risky), you can actually walk to the edge of the arena when the bombs appear, stand between two of them (slightly to the left) and completely avoid every single bomb pattern. If your party is willing to sacrifice a wipe for you to get this down then it's paramount that you do as it will get rid of a lot of unneeded damage you could potentially take.

    - Do whatever you can to contribute to DPS on the heart. Obviously don't get rid of Defiance, but do pop Unchained here if you've got Infuriate up. I also recommend tanking him in the middle of the room as he doesn't do bombs during this phase and you can immediately start work instead of waiting for him to come to you (aggro resets on the heart and WHM will likely start Medica 2ing after the heart appears). Berserk, Internal Release, anything you've got to help damage-wise should be used here. Just make sure not to use Berserk too late as it'd be best not to be pacified for the first MB. :P

    - Communication is key! If you have a way to communicate the rotation to your fellow party members, do it. It will save them a lot of pain.

    - Don't worry, this fight isn't actually that hard to tank. It's more stressful on the healers than anyone else, even w/ a PLD. As long as you've got a good party then you'll pull it off. Make sure nobody gives up after just one wipe, though!
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    Someone sent me this, I think it will help http://i.imgur.com/KP8wXYZ.png
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    - Though only slightly more difficult (and I guess sort of risky), you can actually walk to the edge of the arena when the bombs appear, stand between two of them (slightly to the left) and completely avoid every single bomb pattern. If your party is willing to sacrifice a wipe for you to get this down then it's paramount that you do as it will get rid of a lot of unneeded damage you could potentially take.
    Could be wrong, but I don't think this works post heart, the arena is too small.

    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    - Do whatever you can to contribute to DPS on the heart. Obviously don't get rid of Defiance, but do pop Unchained here if you've got Infuriate up. I also recommend tanking him in the middle of the room as he doesn't do bombs during this phase and you can immediately start work instead of waiting for him to come to you
    I really don't recommend this; it's confusing and makes dodging plumes harder. Additionally you can run up thwack him and run back if you don't want to waste time.

    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    (aggro resets on the heart and WHM will likely start Medica 2ing after the heart appears). Berserk, Internal Release, anything you've got to help damage-wise should be used here. Just make sure not to use Berserk too late as it'd be best not to be pacified for the first MB. :P
    99% sure that is incorrect, I've had Titan hitting me when I'm not 1st on threat. I'm pretty sure due to it being a separate entity it has a separate threat table, BUT the heart isn't attacking you, Titan is, so as long as you have a lead the healer shouldn't pull. I don't know the specifics but he definitely still follows Titan's threat not the heart.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nailkita View Post
    Someone sent me this, I think it will help http://i.imgur.com/KP8wXYZ.png
    That picture is really good, but it doesn't detail the specifics of how an MB comes out, important to know as a Warrior because he does a few things to the tank non-tanks wouldn't notice before hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RapBreon View Post
    Could be wrong, but I don't think this works post heart, the arena is too small.
    Worked for me post heart. Infact there's a video that basically applies this principle to one spot during the final phase: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KrW2ppJ3_0

    Quote Originally Posted by RapBreon
    I really don't recommend this; it's confusing and makes dodging plumes harder. Additionally you can run up thwack him and run back if you don't want to waste time.
    It's about the same, but yeah it does shorten the room to move around a bit.

    Quote Originally Posted by RapBreon
    99% sure that is incorrect, I've had Titan hitting me when I'm not 1st on threat. I'm pretty sure due to it being a separate entity it has a separate threat table, BUT the heart isn't attacking you, Titan is, so as long as you have a lead the healer shouldn't pull. I don't know the specifics but he definitely still follows Titan's threat not the heart.
    This is probably true, I usually just panic when I'm not high on the threat table. :P If that's the case, yeah, you can just sit back and DPS the heart since most stuff won't be hitting you that hard during this phase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    Worked for me post heart. Infact there's a video that basically applies this principle to one spot during the final phase: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KrW2ppJ3_0
    Hmmm, I see that it doesn't seem to work for the circle bomb pattern (which is the hardest to dodge). But it does work for the line bombs if you get shafted with him dropping them horizontal relative to you. Interesting good link, very enlightening, ty.
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    titan's threat carries over to heart(however you can't provoke the heart), i know this because I died and was rezzed just before heart phase unable to provoke, then couldn't get aggro on the heart and it was a wipe
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