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    Is there any other method for quicklyleveing alternate classes besides FATE grinding?

    I haven't seen any threads on this topic anywhere, so I am posting a new one to see if I'm the only one who feels this way.

    I've been level 50 on my White Mage for about a month now. I got my relic last week. For endgame utility I decided that I would level up Arcanist as well that way I would have access to Scholar as well. But, much to my dismay, it would seem that now that I am lacking quests the only efficient option for leveling another class is to Grind FATEs. The same FATEs I did to level Thaumaturge to 26. I don't know about you, but my idea of fun is not grinding the exact same content that I've already done for 2-3 days. Is there something I'm missing? Is there another way for me to level other classes? At this point I'd just as soon not level another DoW or DoM because of how mind numbingly boring FATEs get after rehashing them for the 20th time.
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    dungeons, leves, hunting log, quests you didn't complete the first time around. in the mid levels ive actually heard of people doing monster grind parties, but I can't imagine anyone preferring that to fates.
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    The Hunting log is nice, but on my Arcanist I've completed the 3rd log and I'm only level 23, its great supplementary EXP, but it's not enough to get you more than a level or two. I could see a monster grinding party working, if there was an area in the game that had good enough spawn rate to support it. As you said even then it probably wouldn't compare to FATEs in terms of EXP gain VS time spent.
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    Im in the same boat. I would totally like to level WAR to 50 on this char as well but I apparently wasn't thinking about that when I did all the side quests. Leves give you okay exp. up to around 40 and then they are kind of ridiculous, 8,000 exp per leve when all the other quests were giving me 12,000. If you have rested and food, then running through dungeons isn't terrible experience but its not as good as FATEs and if your a DD the wait times almost make it a total waste. Im having this issue with just leveling one other class, how are you supposed to level more than that on one char? Most of the cross skills require you to level at least 2 other classes, some to past 40.
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    My primary motivation for playing any game is fun, if there's some part of a game that I don't enjoy I tend to avoid it because there's other things that my time would be better spent on. I'm not asking Square Enix to make leveling easier, I'm just asking them to make it more fun. I really enjoyed leveling White Mage to 50. The story quests were cinematic and fun, even FATEs and Leves were a nice filler for 3/4ths or half a level. If leves got buffed so that doing them was worth the time and effort I would be doing those. The same thing goes for dungeons. I would much rather be doing those also, but until the class imbalance is fixed, spending an hour in the DPS queue just to run a single dungeon isn't efficient either. At this point my best option is to just wait and see if leveling is improved with the next update.
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    8 strong monster grind parties are generally faster than fates if you get the composition and spot right. It's much less stop-start than fates too, be that good or bad depending on how you view it.
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    Last edited by Sebazy; 10-11-2013 at 01:16 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    8 strong monster grind parties are generally faster than fates if you get the composition and spot right. It's much less stop-start than fates too, be that good or bad depending on how you view it.
    Has anyone actually tested this and can provide some results/answers? Some questions I have are:

    1) What is the exp/hr or exp/fight if say you're fighting a mob 8 levels higher than you?
    1a) What's the optimal level range above party level to target?
    2) Does everyone receive the same base exp (not base exp + %bonus)?
    3) How close in levels does the group have to be? (Depending on the response, this could make it much more difficult to find a group)
    4) Is a tank/healer required? (I could easily see this as something where a bunch of DDs just get together a rage through a zone because they kill so fast no tank is required a la FATEs)
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    once you hit 15 run each dungeon until you're ready for the next. You'll learn how to play with people and you won't be a level 50 with level 20 greens.....


    Quote Originally Posted by Xaelon View Post
    I don't think you understand. I've done all the dungeons in the game on my White Mage. The issue with queuing as a DPS is that the DF takes so long. Forcing me to spend 2 to 3 straight days of playtime to level another class. Is not going to make me a better player than spending a quarter of that time. I don't know if you have a relic yet, but the relic questline is designed to teach you how to play your class in endgame, so even if I somehow manage to get to 50 without knowing my class, I'll have plenty of time to figure it out as I build the relic for that class.
    Then run fates, buy gray gear at 50 so you can get your AF..

    I'm sure the relic questline is MORE than adequate enough to 'teach you how to play your class'..

    Please don't group with me at level 50 with your alt class though, kthnks.
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    Last edited by Ebon_Drake; 10-11-2013 at 01:43 AM.

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    I don't think you understand. I've done all the dungeons in the game on my White Mage. The issue with queuing as a DPS is that the DF takes so long. Forcing me to spend 2 to 3 straight days of playtime to level another class. Is not going to make me a better player than spending a quarter of that time. I don't know if you have a relic yet, but the relic questline is designed to teach you how to play your class in endgame, so even if I somehow manage to get to 50 without knowing my class, I'll have plenty of time to figure it out as I build the relic for that class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xaelon View Post
    I don't think you understand. I've done all the dungeons in the game on my White Mage. The issue with queuing as a DPS is that the DF takes so long. Forcing me to spend 2 to 3 straight days of playtime to level another class. Is not going to make me a better player than spending a quarter of that time. I don't know if you have a relic yet, but the relic questline is designed to teach you how to play your class in endgame, so even if I somehow manage to get to 50 without knowing my class, I'll have plenty of time to figure it out as I build the relic for that class.
    If you're looking for ACN for SCH purposes, you only have do deal with the wait until 30. After that, you queue as a Healer (assuming you queue as SCH).
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