So much hate

[TheMoonflow]

@OP
White Mages and their silly overheal/regen issues.

As someone that plays SCH and PLD I've seen it from both sides and heal aggro really is pretty much a WHM only issue or in some cases silly SCH that play the game with their feet.

Interesting.
I will get around to trying SCH eventually, for sure.
Then I'll decide which I prefer for healing.

[Kupo_Nut]

@OP
White Mages and their silly overheal/regen issues.

As someone that plays SCH and PLD I've seen it from both sides and heal aggro really is pretty much a WHM only issue or in some cases silly SCH that play the game with their feet.

yeah whms are too dump they can't hide their heals from mobs..
Us master race Scholars are not that stupid, mobs can't tell if we are healing or not so we don't get much aggro, plus sharing hate with pet? Genius.

get on our level whms!

[AlBhedMoog]

... get on our level whms!

Use your Unicorns on the Battlefield !

Or sign up a petition for a fix like that:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l-balance-Easy!

Any White Mage should not do a Paladin's job in their crappy gear!

Let us end WHM discrimination!

[Serophyn]

Hi Guys, I play a tank and just wanted to say thanks for healing. It does make it faster to get hate if we do not have regen on us at the time of add spawns (when they are predictable). Also, please don't try to kite. I know it is scary, but our bigger hate gathering abilities are easier to get off on stationary targets. Lastly, in my opinion, I do not always need to be at full health, so if you have hate from something but something else is attacking the tank, it is ok to let the tanks health dip to shed hate. Please remember, us tanks want you alive as much or more than you want to be alive.

I really wish SE would put in chat bubbles for party members so as I run around you oting the adds waiting on you to flash/oversomething you could easily read my "ouch it really really hurts", and "the pain the pain" macros

[YunieAura]

I don't pop regen on pull, but try to stoneskin the tank before their pull (I interrupt SS if it looks like it'll go off during pull).
I also tell tanks to click regen off before pulls if they wish.
My only aggro issue is Medica II when solo healing HM Primal. （￣□￣；)
Then it is stressful when someone yells at you to Shroud when it's on CD.

[Krisstina]

My only aggro issue is Medica II when solo healing HM Primal. （￣□￣；)
Then it is stressful when someone yells at you to Shroud when it's on CD.

Dont use Medica or Medica II within 30sec after the fight began. Other than that, shouldnt have any problem unless u keep spawning it. Some tank do have an issue of generating hate. So if u still OT,its more of a tanking problem than urs...

[YunieAura]

Dont use Medica or Medica II within 30sec after the fight began. Other than that, shouldnt have any problem unless u keep spawning it. Some tank do have an issue of generating hate. So if u still OT,its more of a tanking problem than urs...

It's well into the fight when the Primal is at 50% HP or after Ultimate. This doesn't happen every time, but I must be ready to Shroud for this moment especially if DPS insist on standing in cleave or aoe on ground. （￣□￣；)

[Duuude007]

Overcure draws much more hate than curing actual needed HP. And yes, that includes regen's HoT proccing every other second on a full HP party member.

[Eclair_Xysha]

I just think it is all about teamwork because really it could be a number of things as to why this or that person died. It could be tank, dps, you, their gear percentage, YOUR gear percentage etc. Yeah sure don't forget the 101 basics when it comes to healing and agro points. But sometimes when you're not healing at all, you do get hate. Had that happen once in CM run. I was just standing there because SCH kept healing everyone before me due to lag. So I'm just waiting for a moderate chunk of hp taken out on a tank for me to single heal when all of the sudden adds come for me. Like okay. Thats fine. It's wtf but what evers you know.
Not the time to think like that at the moment cuz now heres the part where I have to meet up with the tank so he/she can grab it away and at the same time, heal myself. Use sleep (if you can afford the sacrifice for a simple sleep) or Fluid if necessary. I don't have THAT much difficulties healing unless the party member's HP is seriously running low constantly. Then we have a problem because it seriously wouldn't be healer and you know your gear percentage is still pretty damn high and going...

And it also varies in dungeons on where you should stand. (Except for Titan? Idk I find it useful for me to stand splat right in the middle when he does his landslide crap. I may run into it and took damage but it beats flying out of the ring being useless.) Yes stand away from everything (most of the time) but its not really the best if you stand too far and the adds spawns literally right behind you. Oh and dodge the red attacks if theres a crap load of add mobs. Try to pay attention but its okay if you cant dodge it because sometimes the enemies seriously cornered you with reds all over. Skip the heal cast and save yourself.

[Donouchi]

Mainly, this depends on your gear/tank's gear and your personal knowledge of the fight. A few other factors that play into your enmity management is how derpy are your DPS.

A favorite opening move of mine is Divine Seal > Regen.

That is usually enough HPS to roughly match the DPS your tank is taking where you can just sit around and watch the fight. Remember to reapply Regen before Divine Seal wears. Depending on the fight, you might not want to recast Regen in cases where adds pop during the boss pulls. This just comes down to experience and knowledge of the fight. Something to note: Do not pop Shroud of Saints as soon as adds pop. Wait for someone else to get on the mob's hatelist, then you can Shroud if you think it's necessary.