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    Quote Originally Posted by Krisstina View Post
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    The lack that Regen has is the healing over time. This is a problem with bosses, because the battle is always different from before, which means if anything happens and the tank has regen on, you will take aggroed, while Cure II gets slightly more aggro but all at once, in a moment you can control, when you can say "this is the good moment for a Cure II".
    And the problem is even bigger with HM primals, because it seems they have a double aggro bar: the main one, that is always on the tank, and the other unseen one, that doesn't affect the tank, and controls the attacks like Eruption or Weight of the Land.
    I noticed that every time I use Regen, I become the favourite target for these attacks, while when I don't use it I almost never get picked. Now I never get picked for these attacks, because I learned not to use Regen, because it's not needed, not even in danger situations. It's just a skill that makes you relax during easy boss fights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YanDere View Post
    - Don't use ...
    - Don't use ...
    - Don't spam ...
    - Don't attack...
    - Don't rely too much ...
    - Stay away ...
    Ohh My GawdS!!!

    Why should a mage take care of (Enmity) anyways?!

    Your main Job as WHM/CNJ is

    H e a L i n g

    and magic spell management.

    (Why?) do a (Disciples of War) job?! (/furious)

    Only thing one cando atm is to (/comfort) any WHM/CNJ main healers:

    you got the worst job to do ... and most boring one, right now :/.

    Things could be much enjoyable & more aWesome, if we only could get rid of Casting Times:

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l-balance-Easy!

    MoogZ
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlBhedMoog View Post
    Ohh My GawdS!!!

    Why should a mage take care of (Enmity) anyways?!

    Your main Job as WHM/CNJ is

    H e a L i n g

    and magic spell management.

    (Why?) do a (Disciples of War) job?! (/furious)

    Only thing one cando atm is to (/comfort) any WHM/CNJ main healers:

    you got the worst job to do ... and most boring one, right now :/.

    Things could be much enjoyable & more aWesome, if we only could get rid of Casting Times:

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l-balance-Easy!

    MoogZ
    The healers get almost as much aggro as the tanks, if you don't care about enmity then you are the WORST healer in the whole MMO world.
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    The regen is a nice tip, thanks.
    I'm not keen on the aoe heals unless the whole party is at 25% health and within range, I won't bother.
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    Kaesara Everheart
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    Yes this happens, whether you have regen up or not. One thing you can do is make sure to position yourself on the opposite side to where the adds spawn and make sure there are some party members between you and the mobs. Of course limit your use of medica too
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    Grogin Wolfson
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    Hi Guys, I play a tank and just wanted to say thanks for healing. It does make it faster to get hate if we do not have regen on us at the time of add spawns (when they are predictable). Also, please don't try to kite. I know it is scary, but our bigger hate gathering abilities are easier to get off on stationary targets. Lastly, in my opinion, I do not always need to be at full health, so if you have hate from something but something else is attacking the tank, it is ok to let the tanks health dip to shed hate. Please remember, us tanks want you alive as much or more than you want to be alive.
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    Aedra Laevatein
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    1) stoneskin yourself up before adds pop
    2) don't use Any regen before adds pop. A good tank will cancel any remaining regen on them before adds pop as well.
    3) Dont' panic and running around if you get overwhelm. Holy > Self heal > Runaway. (holy for stun purpose, then you can safely heal self.)
    (Actually cleric stance + holy will kill adds very fast)
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    As a Tank sometimes I forget to cut off regen before pull, would be nice if there was simple command like

    /buff "Regen" -- If Regen buff is on me cut it off
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    Varok Kreldan
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    Regen is a great spell, you're missing out if you dont use it. You just need to know when to use it.

    If you're taking threat from your tank with regen then it's a tanking problem, unless you are casting regen at the wrong time(before a pull or a boss that spawns adds).
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    hate it when i start casting a aoe heal, then adds spawn, instant aggro
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