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    Terabyt3's Avatar
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    Nykona Sharrowkyn
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    Marauder Lv 50

    Wrath. To use it or not to and WARs hps!

    There's a bit of a debate going on as to WARs mitigation and whether or not to use wrath or sit on 5 stacks at all times. I'm on the bus that says blow it and hopefully i'll roughly explain why below.

    Feel free to put your reasons for or against afterwards but please back up with something. These numbers are rough averages for WAR50 w/ DL+ bravura+1

    This is from a thread on the XIV forums and my argument as to why storing wrath is LUNACY and how WARs self heals roughly run down. Numbers are rough averages but tbh are being generous when it comes to the total HPS for WAR because it is not taking into account animation time for cooldowns and the like. So in reality is probably MUCH lower.


    Thrill of battle: Roughly 1.5k heal, recast 120s
    1500/120=12.5 12.5hps
    Bloodbath: 25% of dps for 30 seconds every 90 secs. Assuming Dps of 190 let's say using zerk and other things for average dps....
    ((190/4)x30)/90=15.83333 15.83333hps
    Inner Beast: Assuming that the average Ib heals for 1.5k (countin crits and non crits) you can do a maximum of 4.5 inner beasts per minute on average.
    (1500x4.5)/60=112.5 112.5hps
    Storm's Path: Average hit is around the 280 mark let's say. Heals for 50% and takes 7.5secs to get taht combo out.
    (280/2)/7.5 = 18.67 18.67hps

    There are all your self hps ability averages at 50. 12.5+15.83+112.5+18.67=159.5

    Assuming you get the perfect roation 159.5 hps is what you'll get with these numbers. So your claim of 1000 hps is WAY WAY off. Unless you're IB hits for 6k heals everytime..... lol!

    Edit again: Oh and before anyone screams "Aaaaargh keep wrath stacks at 5 at all times for extra healzzzz!" that will restrict you to only 2 IB's a minute. Dropping your average IB to 1200~ and hps from IB to this:

    (1200x2)/60=40 You've just lowered your self healing WARs main form of mitigation by 72.5 hps

    Assumig you ALWAYS have 15% extra heals (which you don't because of ramp up time) You need to be recieving 483.33 external healing EVERY SECOND! To make up for not using IB.

    Whereas Using IB everytime you Have the opportunity (as example above 4.5 times a minute. You will still average at 7.5% extra healing AND the 112.5 hps from IB.

    Holding wrath is trying to play WAR like a PLD. It does not compute.

    In conclusion: You should blow IB as often as you can it's your best form of mitigation. With these numbers you could mitigate around 160dps incoming.

    When a PLD (roughly 20% mitigation on average of incoming dps) is fight something that is doing more than 800~dps with same set up they become more effective.

    Anyone that's been to coil will know around 3 stacks snake will be above 800 incoming dps.

    I rest my case.


    EDIT: As pointed out below I don't mean blow it once you hit 5 wrath and are sitting at full health lmao. I kinda took for granted that was common sense, but yes I can see where the confusion might lie. And as above these are rough numbers in a "perfect" scenario and in practice it's actually MUCH worse than this for DPS, HPS and the PLD overtaking point.
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    Last edited by Terabyt3; 10-11-2013 at 01:16 AM.