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  1. #11
    Player
    Kitru's Avatar
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    Kitru Kitera
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 50
    It depends upon whether your group is going to be dropping appreciable AoE damage (e.g. there is a SMN or SCH who is going to DoT cleave, a WHM that wants to holy nuke, or a BLM that wants to drop some AoE hate) or going through the focus fire cycle.

    If there is a lot of AoE DPS going out, I roll out with Tomahawk>Overpower>Overpower>SE combo(cycle it so that you get at least 1 hit on each target; this also gives you a good look at comparative enmity for everything). At that point, depending upon what the relative enmity of each of the enemies is, I'll either keep throwing how Overpower or I'll go into the BB>BB>SE combo rotation while cycling through targets to distribute enmity, depending upon the size of my enmity cushion on the non-"focus" target.

    If it's a focus fire situation, I'll do Tomahawk>Overpower and then move into the BB>BB>SE combo rotation while cycling through targets to distribute enmity. If there are only 2 targets, the middle attack of each combo will hit the non-focus target. If there are 3 targets, the first attack and second attack will alternate between the two non-focus targets while the combo finisher will always land on the focus target (i.e. non1>non2>focus>non2>non1>focus).

    In any case, if there are more than 3, you spam Overpower, use some CDs, and hope that your healer can keep up.

    I should probably also mention that I don't use Flash, at all. I find it to be completely redundant since I already have Overpower, I don't have an appreciable mp pool, and I don't have any AoE enmity problems in the first place so I don't see the point in wasting one of my additional slots on an attack that I'll *maybe* use once or twice every fight, if that.
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  2. #12
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    Umero's Avatar
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    Character
    Mero Mero
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Unchain (Only if Infuriated is ready for use)
    Infuriated (If you have less than 3 or 4 wrath)
    Vengeance
    Inner Release
    Bloodbath
    Berserk
    Run to the pack of mobs and start Overpower and spam Overpower until you can't do it anymore due to Berserk's negative effect kicks in.
    SteelCyclone
    Foresight
    Second Wind (If needed)
    Infuriated
    And then repeat Overpower
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  3. #13
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    Jonny_Tapas's Avatar
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    Limsa
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    Character
    Jonny Tapas
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    Thank you for all of the great replies. I believe I've discovered a few of my issues just in playing yesterday. Just had to deal with all that elitest rage while I took the time to figure it out.

    1.) I spent too much time positioning and often one was stray before I got off the OP

    2.) I naturally assumed 1 Flash + 1 OP was enough enmity to hold onto hate of the pack for a while assuming everyone was attacking the marked mob.... This is wrong.

    Basically my old pull would be fine if we had a BLM sleeping... otherwise... OP for days... man WAR just became less attractive.
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  4. #14
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    Cubester's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    G'intana Fhey
    World
    Lich
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 100
    Here's what I do.

    - Mark
    - Tomahawk mob 1
    - 2 x Flash if mobs are slept/ Flash + Overpower if they aren't
    - Maim combo on mob 1
    - Butcher's block combo on mob 1
    - Additional Flash/ Overpower ( depending on slept mobs )

    What I do next ( provided mobs aren't asleep ) is tab between mobs. I usually do my Skull Sunder on mob 1, and then I tab to mob 2 and 3 and I butcher's block the one that needs it. ( When the healer's aggro is rising ) Followed by more overpower and more tabbing.
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  5. #15
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    SpookyGhost's Avatar
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    Kori Fleming
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Umero View Post
    Unchain (Only if Infuriated is ready for use)
    Infuriated (If you have less than 3 or 4 wrath)
    Vengeance
    Inner Release
    Bloodbath
    Berserk
    Run to the pack of mobs and start Overpower and spam Overpower until you can't do it anymore due to Berserk's negative effect kicks in.
    SteelCyclone
    Foresight
    Second Wind (If needed)
    Infuriated
    And then repeat Overpower
    That works, but it has a few problems.

    1. Unchained has a loooong cooldown so blowing it on trash mobs is a bit inefficient
    2. You're blowing... a lot of cooldowns for one trash pack.
    3. Spamming overpower alone can be a TP sink and you'll get more efficiency out of just overpowering to half TP then cycling through with your standard hate combo.

    I suppose this works as a huge burst of hate which has its place (Turn 4 maybe?), but it seems a bit resource intensive and I'm not sure if it's worth it. If you can expand on why it's the better way to go about it, though, I'd love to hear.
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