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    Quote Originally Posted by Freakiie View Post
    This. If you queued up under ENGLISH and then get offended when people ask you to actually speak English then there's only one person to blame. (Hint, it's not the OP)

    But ok, people defending whatever douchebag behaviour people are showing in this game is nothing new on the forums unfortunately.
    I don't see a single person condoning MPK here I also don't see how SOCIALIZING in their own language is a problem it's not a matter of dungeon strategy it's simply chatting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurimi View Post
    I don't see a single person condoning MPK here I also don't see how SOCIALIZING in their own language is a problem it's not a matter of dungeon strategy it's simply chatting.
    Half the people in this thread are putting the blame on the OP for this. That's as close as condoning the other guys behaviour as you can get.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mouseno4 View Post
    It matters not how the dungeon was going.

    The majority of the world speaks english. For good or not the primary language for most people is english.
    A rather prominent display of ignorance, the primary language for most people is most certainly not English. Approximately 30% of the world population can speak English, but only 5~7% are native English speakers.

    I don’t know about you, but the last time I checked, 30% is not a “majority”, and 5-7% is not “most”, unless it’s followed by a “don’t”

    As ive said, it isnt a matter of whether their chosen language was ''hurting'' the dungeon, but how the request to speak english TO the group, was taken as insulting.
    Not really, I find your attitude and presumptions insulting enough here.

    And as for ''if they were speaking to you, they would speak in the recipients own langauge'' is complete rubbish. I could not even tell you how often ive been spoken to directly in a language i didnt understand. All the while unable to tell them in THEIR language i cannot understand them.
    And that’s relevant how?

    Quote Originally Posted by mouseno4 View Post
    I take offense to you having the same hair as my character.

    See how silly that is?
    About as silly as your belief that you have the right to dictate to other people what language they should speak in.


    Quote Originally Posted by mouseno4 View Post
    From what i understand, the server i am on is a North American one, based in Canada.
    As others have said, there is no NA-only server, only NA/EU, which in case you don’t know, encompasses far more than just English speaking nations. Not that the location of the data center matters, there are still many JP players on now NA/EU legacy servers, they certainly aren’t required to speak English no matter what you think.

    Anyway, I have expressed my dismay at some people's attitude in the Duty Finder, so i must go to bed.

    I hope that some of that dismay is directed at your own attitude.

    Quote Originally Posted by Freakiie View Post
    But ok, people defending whatever douchebag behaviour people are showing in this game is nothing new on the forums unfortunately.

    One DB behavior does not excuse nor justify another.


    Quote Originally Posted by Freakiie View Post
    Half the people in this thread are putting the blame on the OP for this. That's as close as condoning the other guys behaviour as you can get.
    Says the one defending a DB behavior
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freakiie View Post
    This. If you queued up under ENGLISH and then get offended when people ask you to actually speak English then there's only one person to blame. (Hint, it's not the OP)

    But ok, people defending whatever douchebag behaviour people are showing in this game is nothing new on the forums unfortunately.
    No one is defending an intentional wipe. It seems that there was no reason to even ask the person to speak English, as it can be assumed, based on previous posts, that the dungeon was going fine up until that point. I always use the auto-translate until it is known that others who I am speaking directly to also speak good English. There appears to be no reason for asking them to "English plz" other than to cause an issue.

    [I don't understand] [I'm sorry]
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    And like the duty finder, there are language options for the forums. English, please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marenwynn View Post
    And like the duty finder, there are language options for the forums. English, please.

    Wow. Your posts are so enlightening.
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    Fun fact. English is not the most spoken language in the world. It's the second most spoken language in the world. Mandarin is actually the most spoken language.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freakiie View Post
    So wait. Asking people to speak english (which according to the OP they were capable off) when queuing up for the DF as ENGLISH speaking players is being a douchebag? Gotcha!
    OP didn’t so much “ask” as “dictate”. Moreover, people are not obligated to talk to you in any language regardless whether it’s DF or not. And when the conversation is social in nature, the OP has no right to inject himself into a conversation he is not a part of. How do you think you'd look if you walk up to a couple strangers in a store talking to each other in a foreign language and tell them "english pls"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reslin View Post
    Fun fact. English is not the most spoken language in the world. It's the second most spoken language in the world. Mandarin is actually the most spoken language.
    Pssh, what are you doing here with facts? Those are not welcome here!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nica View Post
    OP didn’t so much “ask” as “dictate”. Moreover, people are not obligated to talk to you in any language regardless whether it’s DF or not. And when the conversation is social in nature, the OP has no right to inject himself into a conversation he is not a part of. How do you think you'd look if you walk up to a couple strangers in a store talking to each other in a foreign language and tell them "english pls"?
    This is NOT a random store where you walk in, this is when you're working on some project and suddenly two people in your group start talking in some language nobody understands while you're trying to finish your project. I don't know, but I'm pretty damn sure most people wouldn't appreciate that.

    Also if "english pls" is already dictating how people are supposed to play holy crap what is this community coming too. Soon you'll need to write a 10 page essay in the most polite writing possible to check whether it's ok to even ask something.
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