armory system useless? Mythology Cap

[Genesiser]

I think they should remove the cap for different jobs you have so people have the option if they so choose to get the times for multiple classes. Would I do it? Heck no, thatd be too much ffxiv to reach the cap on multiple jobs. But just because I wouldn't do it, it doesn't mean I would be against others doing it.

[Ryios]

A cap isn't a cost, it's a brick wall. It's like going to work and they say "no your not getting paid today, you hit your cap for the week".

I don't care how much they cost, just get rid of the wall.

I understand why the cap is there, but it's not the solution. Imo the cap should at least be raised to 495 ASAP,like now. You should be able to get a piece of minor gear a week (boots are 495 etc). And a Chest in 2 weeks (895).

Capping it to 300 is just to much. You can't even buy a belt with 1 week of tomes at that rate. 495 would be +1 relic in two weeks, or any 495 or lower gear in one week, which is far more reasonable to me.

That or make myth caps job dependent.

[Alhanelem]

I'm tired of people saying things like "playing more than one class isn't allowed because of the myth cap." You don't need to have every myth stone item to use a class in content. People also haven't apparently considered the fact that they can obtain coil drops while on other classes (I have encountered many situations where someone is on one job and the group agrees to let them role on another) to help gear up a second job. Then there comes the fact that one of the ends to which crystal tower exists is to help upgrade gear on your 2nd/3rd/4th/5th/etc jobs.

[Sayura_]

I'm tired of people saying things like "playing more than one class isn't allowed because of the myth cap." You don't need to have every myth stone item to use a class in content. People also haven't apparently considered the fact that they can obtain coil drops while on other classes (I have encountered many situations where someone is on one job and the group agrees to let them role on another) to help gear up a second job. Then there comes the fact that one of the ends to which crystal tower exists is to help upgrade gear on your 2nd/3rd/4th/5th/etc jobs.

Crystal Tower isn't out. Right now there is no point wasting Myth on your alts when it takes 5 months just to get your main geared.

Also, relying on the possibility of alt drops in coils is silly considering it's rare to even get what your main needs. (unless you're a dragoon).

[Ryios]

I get gear all the time for other classes in Coil. In fact that's how I got the shield and pants on my Paladin. But the cap on myth is still BS. I don't like someone telling me how much I can do by placing a hard barrier on it.

I would rather run BCB into the ground and then go focus on crafts and stuff, then only be allowed X clears on BCB. The cap on myth and the lockout on BCB is only there to slow us down till more content comes out. Imo I don't care if more content is out or not. I want to run the living crap out of BCB and farming myth tomes as it is now without the hard cap and lockouts.

Lockouts are a horrible idea. Instead of making it a lockout they should have made it like FFXI where you need to acquire materials to make an item to get into BCB. E.g. they could have made it so you need an item from each crafting class to unlock BCB Turn1, 2, 3, 4, and 5. Then, if you can, get all those items again and you can clear it again before the week is up.

[Alhanelem]

Crystal Tower isn't out. Right now there is no point wasting Myth on your alts when it takes 5 months just to get your main geared.

I know it's not out, but complaining for SE to address something that's already slated to be addressed in the next patch is pointless.

Also, relying on the possibility of alt drops in coils is silly considering it's rare to even get what your main needs. (unless you're a dragoon).

it's really not as silly as you think, given that some relic armors are better than the allagans and thus some drops may not be needed by another party member who either already has the relic drop, already has the allagan drop, or does not want to get the allagan because they're getting the relic armor soon.

[ashikenshin]

so basically it's: raise the myth cap so we can get more gear for our main and start getting gear for our alts... until crystal tower then you can lower it again because, you know, crystal tower is a place to get gear for your main and alts...

[StarMarmot]

so basically it's: raise the myth cap so we can get more gear for our main and start getting gear for our alts... until crystal tower then you can lower it again because, you know, crystal tower is a place to get gear for your main and alts...

Not like that, no. What's being asked for is one cap per class, instead of one cap for all classes to share. I.e. you can grind out 300 myths for your PLD and when you're done there you could also grind out 300 for your DRG. However, you can't spend all 600 on your PLD, the points you got on your DRG can only be used by the DRG and so on.

The rest of the post is not targeted at you directly.

I honestly don't see why people are opposed to the idea of having one myth cap per class. If someone wants to play more than you and gear up another class too, what's negative about that? If I were to reveal to you that I, as we speak, am grinding mythology stones on a separate alt character, even though I already capped my 300 stones on my main, your concern would probably be very mild. If I ask to do the grind on my main character's alt class instead, it's suddenly DEFCON 1. I just can't see why, all I see is "Darklight is enough".

Currently, someone might do their weekly coil run, cap their 300 myth tomes, and then log out for the week because progression wise, that's all they are allowed (this is unrelated, but since you're going to bring it up - they already have their crafts at 50, they have smelled all the flowers in the Black Shroud and they set aside some gil for a pretty house in 2.1. Simply put, don't avoid the subject by suggesting other things one could do, this discussion is about whether the shared cap is good or bad - nothing else).

To me, it's like you'd do your valor grind in WoW, do the one raid, and after that, you'd have to stop playing for the week because you already have your 5-man dungeon sets on your alts, and alts can't progress further once you picked a class to raid on. Had it been like that, I can safely say I had paid Blizzard considerably less over the years.

If people could also spend time working on alts in FFXIV, they'd have so much more content to occupy themselves with, even if it's very artificial and grindy. It's not extra power in any way, it's literally doing the exact same thing for another class for those that want to. You would have the same 300 myth limitation as your main, and the points can't be spent on any other class than the one that earnt them. Simply give the alts equal footing to the main class you play. Like it's been said before, you can already roll another character for this purpose - but with this awesome armory system in place, why not make full use of it?

EDIT: I should add I'm nowhere near this point myself yet. I still have ways to entertain myself immensly in the game, I'm just thinking about what I'd like the game to be long term as far as alts are concerned.

[Arkista]

IDK why people keeping thinking that relic is BIS for every slot for every job. Relic gear is not the end all to gear and your done that's what Allagan gear is for.

[Wobi]

I'm so glad people on my server are smart enough to know better than this nonsense. Leveling a 2nd char to get around myth caps is pointless.

My bard is almost fully geared in iLVL 90 gear and my DRG now has a mix of Darklight/Allagan which is sufficient to run coil with. If Crystal Tower had been out in time this would have become moot as iLVL 80 gear would be fine to run Coil with, as this content is not far from coming out they will likely not be removing the cap.

Being able to spam WP/AK SHOULD NOT be able to get you more or less the best gear obtainable in the game with ease. The dungeons are easy as hell and just because someone has infinite free time they would be able to gear up to max without showing a single measure of skill. Some relic pieces are BIS and some Allagan pieces are, use myth to buy the pieces that are best and run coil to get the others.