armory system useless? Mythology Cap

[Dedayius]

I get why they put the weekly mythology cap in; to prevent people from obtaining the best gear immediately, claiming there is no content, and the ensuing bad press that would occur. Still these caps are ridiculous. At the least, the mythology cap should be per job instead of character to keep people playing and enjoying the game. If people are only logging in to get their mythology cap for the week, then the game will fail. This is also related to the Coil lockout, which should be a loot lockout only and not a content lockout. If I clear Turn 1 then I should only be locked out of getting equipment from Turn 1 and should be free to join any other groups who are doing Coil as well. SE is just hamstringing themselves with these outdated systems.

[StarMarmot]

Yep, mostly enjoy gearing for no reason at all because I'm strange like that. Often field an army of alts in similar games. Even if I find this game fun, I will probably lose interest if I can't continue gearing my alt classes until february - and then just one of them and assuming new gear isn't released that uses the same currency, forcing me to buy discount pieces for alts OR current level items for my main.

What gear is "good enough" is very irrelevant. People like progressing their characters. First the main. When that's done for the week, people look to alts. People can't progress their alt characters freely here. If you already progressed your main for the week, your alt is locked. People that are serious about their alt already have DL. They can't progress at all until they're done with their main - in 2-3 months from now.

The system is simply way too restrictive. The only post with an actual negative side to having per job caps I've seen here is the guy that fears people will feel they have to run 64 AK runs per week. The rest won't comprehend what is being asked for/are too busy defending the game unconditionally. Personally, I don't think SE have to police us. When you played WoW, did you feel you had to cap your justice points for all 10 character slots because you were offered the opportunity? I don't think so. You probably enjoyed keeping an alt or two up to date though.

[ashikenshin]

huh? there is a philo cap? I thought you geared your jobs with philo first...

[Genesiser]

I think they should remove the cap for different jobs you have so people have the option if they so choose to get the times for multiple classes. Would I do it? Heck no, thatd be too much ffxiv to reach the cap on multiple jobs. But just because I wouldn't do it, it doesn't mean I would be against others doing it.

[Ryios]

A cap isn't a cost, it's a brick wall. It's like going to work and they say "no your not getting paid today, you hit your cap for the week".

I don't care how much they cost, just get rid of the wall.

I understand why the cap is there, but it's not the solution. Imo the cap should at least be raised to 495 ASAP,like now. You should be able to get a piece of minor gear a week (boots are 495 etc). And a Chest in 2 weeks (895).

Capping it to 300 is just to much. You can't even buy a belt with 1 week of tomes at that rate. 495 would be +1 relic in two weeks, or any 495 or lower gear in one week, which is far more reasonable to me.

That or make myth caps job dependent.

[Alhanelem]

I'm tired of people saying things like "playing more than one class isn't allowed because of the myth cap." You don't need to have every myth stone item to use a class in content. People also haven't apparently considered the fact that they can obtain coil drops while on other classes (I have encountered many situations where someone is on one job and the group agrees to let them role on another) to help gear up a second job. Then there comes the fact that one of the ends to which crystal tower exists is to help upgrade gear on your 2nd/3rd/4th/5th/etc jobs.

[Sayura_]

I'm tired of people saying things like "playing more than one class isn't allowed because of the myth cap." You don't need to have every myth stone item to use a class in content. People also haven't apparently considered the fact that they can obtain coil drops while on other classes (I have encountered many situations where someone is on one job and the group agrees to let them role on another) to help gear up a second job. Then there comes the fact that one of the ends to which crystal tower exists is to help upgrade gear on your 2nd/3rd/4th/5th/etc jobs.

Crystal Tower isn't out. Right now there is no point wasting Myth on your alts when it takes 5 months just to get your main geared.

Also, relying on the possibility of alt drops in coils is silly considering it's rare to even get what your main needs. (unless you're a dragoon).

[Ryios]

I get gear all the time for other classes in Coil. In fact that's how I got the shield and pants on my Paladin. But the cap on myth is still BS. I don't like someone telling me how much I can do by placing a hard barrier on it.

I would rather run BCB into the ground and then go focus on crafts and stuff, then only be allowed X clears on BCB. The cap on myth and the lockout on BCB is only there to slow us down till more content comes out. Imo I don't care if more content is out or not. I want to run the living crap out of BCB and farming myth tomes as it is now without the hard cap and lockouts.

Lockouts are a horrible idea. Instead of making it a lockout they should have made it like FFXI where you need to acquire materials to make an item to get into BCB. E.g. they could have made it so you need an item from each crafting class to unlock BCB Turn1, 2, 3, 4, and 5. Then, if you can, get all those items again and you can clear it again before the week is up.

[Alhanelem]

Crystal Tower isn't out. Right now there is no point wasting Myth on your alts when it takes 5 months just to get your main geared.

I know it's not out, but complaining for SE to address something that's already slated to be addressed in the next patch is pointless.

Also, relying on the possibility of alt drops in coils is silly considering it's rare to even get what your main needs. (unless you're a dragoon).

it's really not as silly as you think, given that some relic armors are better than the allagans and thus some drops may not be needed by another party member who either already has the relic drop, already has the allagan drop, or does not want to get the allagan because they're getting the relic armor soon.

[ashikenshin]

so basically it's: raise the myth cap so we can get more gear for our main and start getting gear for our alts... until crystal tower then you can lower it again because, you know, crystal tower is a place to get gear for your main and alts...