armory system useless? Mythology Cap

[firepixiedarien]

Why would you do Crystal Tower when it drops inferior gear?

Why would you run Beastmen dailies for Tomes when 8m WP runs are more efficient?

Why would you do Coil when 8m WP runs gives the same ilvl gear?

Why do I sit in front of my computer arguing this with so-called "hardcore" people like you guys?









....FOR FUN, PEOPLE. JESUS CHRIST.

[Starlord]

Why would you do Crystal Tower when it drops inferior gear?

Why would you run Beastmen dailies for Tomes when 8m WP runs are more efficient?

Why would you do Coil when 8m WP runs gives the same ilvl gear?

Why do I sit in front of my computer arguing this with so-called "hardcore" people like you guys?









....FOR FUN, PEOPLE. JESUS CHRIST.

I know, everything has to be for Progression ( which is fine) but how about doing content for the fun of it? Or For Vanity Gear for the future.

[Osicat]

The simple question remain.


What do patch 2.1 accualy give in progress for ppl who capped out in i lvl 90 gear?

As I see it give.... nothing.

The devs give a wery nice answer about different path of progress, but fact is. The game have no progress after your reached i lvl 90 gear, the new patch 24 man raid is accualy usless for the i lvl 90 capped players as there is no reaon at al to play it as it give inferior gear. Neather is the new ways to give mytho T,s as if you already capped in gear they have no value.

What is needed is not new ways to gain i lvl 90 gear or even worse, its ways to accualy progress and get higher lvl gear.

Why in the world do they intruduce a lesser raid and lesser drops several months after release?

I guess we will see all raids in 2.2 with i lvl 70 drops only...

[TirionCrey]

The simple question remain.


What do patch 2.1 accualy give in progress for ppl who capped out in i lvl 90 gear?

As I see it give.... nothing.

The devs give a wery nice answer about different path of progress, but fact is. The game have no progress after your reached i lvl 90 gear, the new patch 24 man raid is accualy usless for the i lvl 90 capped players as there is no reaon at al to play it as it give inferior gear. Neather is the new ways to give mytho T,s as if you already capped in gear they have no value.

What is needed is not new ways to gain i lvl 90 gear or even worse, its ways to accualy progress and get higher lvl gear.

Why in the world do they intruduce a lesser raid and lesser drops several months after release?

I guess we will see all raids in 2.2 with i lvl 70 drops only...

God please spare us with your stupidity. CT was supposed to be in the game at release, it didn't make it cause it wasn't tuned right, so they pushed it back to 2.1. 2.2 gives further Coil Turns with higher difficulty and every patch after will be further progression with higher gear...get your facts straight and get over it.

If you don't care about more than one class to gear up, good for you...there are dozens of people who actually like playing different classes and would like to get gear for all of them and CT will speed things up.
Also Extreme Primals will give gear, but nobody knows what itemlvl. Could be 80, could be 90. Spare us your "joined August 2013" opinion when you don't even care enough to follow the information available scrub.

[Leadros]

God please spare us with your stupidity. CT was supposed to be in the game at release, it didn't make it cause it wasn't tuned right, so they pushed it back to 2.1. 2.2 gives further Coil Turns with higher difficulty and every patch after will be further progression with higher gear...get your facts straight and get over i

Oh, so i only have to wait 3 month till i can do what i love in mmos, and that is progress raiding? sounds great! here take my money!

your arguments are such total bullcrap, i cant even start.

all they have to do is make crystal tower harder and more rewarding than coil, and EVERYONE is happy. casual players get more options with treasure hunting, dailys and myth cap raise, so they get a kinda "nerfed" coil and can do crystal tower after that

Hardcores who ofc are ahead, have a new progress raid to look forward.

yet you argue as if its the best if one part of the playerbase who is the vocal minority in forums gets left behind.

[TirionCrey]

Oh, so i only have to wait 3 month till i can do what i love in mmos, and that is progress raiding? sounds great! here take my money!

your arguments are such total bullcrap, i cant even start.

all they have to do is make crystal tower harder and more rewarding than coil, and EVERYONE is happy. casual players get more options with treasure hunting, dailys and myth cap raise, so they get a kinda "nerfed" coil and can do crystal tower after that

Hardcores who ofc are ahead, have a new progress raid to look forward.

yet you argue as if its the best if one part of the playerbase who is the vocal minority in forums gets left behind.

Another person who doesn't care enough to read the information available...joined October 2013...just saying.

If your gear shown on Lodestone and on XIVArmory is any indicator of your "hardcore" progress...not considering that you don't even have half of your subclass abilities unlocked on either of your TWO Lvl 50 Jobs...I wonder what makes you claim you are a "hardcore" raider and have to wait for 3 months to actually get something new to progress when obviously you haven't even slightly progressed through current content. Troll? You are obviosuly so hardcore, you don't even have to enter Coil or get any decent gear to claim you have nothing to do in CT once it hits the game...when you are one of the few ones who can actually use every single piece of gear that drops in there...

PS: I am actually almost done with itemlvl90 Gear...I consider myself hardcore...did and been doing most of the current content since 4 days after release by now and I'm not complaining...so what is your problem, or did you just forget your medication?

[TirionCrey]

are you fucking drunk?
do you think gamblers crown is my main gear?
besides 4 pieces everything i have is lvl 90. and you call ME a troll? you, who judge people because you look at a profile who updates once a day?

im not even maining my dragoon, thats why i dont care about any subskill of it. but why do i even reply to retards like you.

Well you're missing out on some really useful subclass skills on your PLD as well...so how am I supposed to take any of your "hardcore raiders need new more challenging and higher itemlvl rewarding content" in any kind or way seriously, when you show zero interest in actually progressing through what is served to you right now.

Obviously you care enough about"what gear you log out with", otherwise it would be a strange coincidence to log out in that exact combination of items you did, but not what actually would benefit the progress of your character BESIDES gear...so yeah...I don't even know why I respond to you...can't even take you seriously with how you argue and then claim you don't want to wait 3 months to do what you love in MMOs, but don't even care to prepare yourself to the extent available to you.

PS: I'm not stuttering. B-b-b-but I'm just not an impatient little prick. If the game has nothing to offer to me for 3-4 months that is to my liking...I cancel my sub and wait til something comes up that I'm interested in...you clearly seem to lack the options do something else besides FFXIV, so I feel sorry for you. Your FFXIV<->SWToR comparison is more than I need to hear also...you're definetely on my not worth responding to list now. Why don't you go to WoW...since you prolly came from there at some point before...I heard they are pretty happy with "progressing" on the same raid for the next 9 months til the next expansion comes.

[Osicat]

God please spare us with your stupidity. CT was supposed to be in the game at release, it didn't make it cause it wasn't tuned right, so they pushed it back to 2.1. 2.2 gives further Coil Turns with higher difficulty and every patch after will be further progression with higher gear...get your facts straight and get over it.

Lovely history lesson mate. Dont say alot thu but pour some sarcasm and hotshoot besserwisser "im FF fanboy" over into the bowl.

So it missed the bus and came late. Sure I get that, but as it come late what is the point of it if ppl already capped out in higher gear? Why not increase the difficulty and i lvl of drops?

Answer this history boy, if I can get i lvl 90 drops from coil... why do a ilvl 80 instance? Or, if somone capped out in ilvl 90 gear, myth or drops... why would they be happy for the new raid? This is just as stupid as Titan who you do to get relic wep.... drop wep...

[Leadros]

Lovely history lesson mate. Dont say alot thu but pour some sarcasm and hotshoot besserwisser "im FF fanboy" over into the bowl.

So it missed the bus and came late. Sure I get that, but as it come late what is the point of it if ppl already capped out in higher gear? Why not increase the difficulty and i lvl of drops?

Answer this history boy, if I can get i lvl 90 drops from coil... why do a ilvl 80 instance? Or, if somone capped out in ilvl 90 gear, myth or drops... why would they be happy for the new raid? This is just as stupid as Titan who you do to get relic wep.... drop wep...

his only answer will be "b-b-but more options ! b-b-b-ut gear for alts!"

gear for alts is already possible in coil.
more options are already in 2,1 in form of myth cap raise, dailys and treasure hunt.

crystal tower needs increase in difficulty of the game goes down the same path as SwTor who also didnt commit to endgame content.

[Tannlore]

Answer this history boy, if I can get i lvl 90 drops from coil... why do a ilvl 80 instance? ...

I'll answer this:

It takes (currently) four and a half months roughly to completely buy (with myth) ilvl 90 gear for 1 job and roughly 3 months after the increase. (taking coil out of the equation here) You are looking at three years and three months (@300) and and two years and three months (@450) give or take a few weeks on both amounts.

Let that sink in: three to two years. Even given coil drops, the RNG on what drops, the 7 other people who need gear from there.. You're still looking at a very long time from now for all the jobs.

So why do ilvl 80 gear? To fill that massive gap in gear between darklight and Allagan/AF+1. You may be gearing let's say dragoon in coil/myths, but you could be gearing Whm in CT. Or any other combination of jobs.

If however, you are only ever going to gear/level 1 job. Well... this puts a person in their own special predicament and frankly, robs them of experiencing a lot the game has to offer.