Weekly Caps: Worse than Fatigue

[FAVisceglia]

Off topic slightly, but whichever MMO introduced the notion of tokens (I know WoW added it eventually, but not sure if they were first) did NOT do the genre any favors.

Somebody decided that grinding for tokens is better than grinding bosses for drops. I understand the why, but I strongly disagree with it.

On topic, I'd like to see the tokens removed, loot tables and number of drops per kill increased, and the only limit would be on the number of drops (not kills) you can get from the high-tier bosses each week. e.g. You could do Coil Turn 1 as many times as you want, but you only get to roll on x amount of items per week.

[TeaTimeBear]

Under table jabs aren't needed. I merely asked a question to gauge why you felt it was negligible. I for one didn't say anything about needing it as I to have for gone suggestions by said 'pros' about gear.

[Sotek]

I merely asked a question to gauge why you felt it was negligible.

Your exact words were "do you honestly think strat is better than DL". If you meant to ask why I feel the upgrade is negligible, then fair enough, but that isn't how your question reads at all.

[Sidious]

Off topic slightly, but whichever MMO introduced the notion of tokens (I know WoW added it eventually, but not sure if they were first) did NOT do the genre any favors.

Somebody decided that grinding for tokens is better than grinding bosses for drops. I understand the why, but I strongly disagree with it.

On topic, I'd like to see the tokens removed, loot tables and number of drops per kill increased, and the only limit would be on the number of drops (not kills) you can get from the high-tier bosses each week. e.g. You could do Coil Turn 1 as many times as you want, but you only get to roll on x amount of items per week.

Agreed. I hate point/token systems. I'd rather grind a boss for a chance at an actual piece of loot than endlessly grind a dungeon for 40 points and no chance at anything else. It just feels like work. You won't always get what you want with random drops, but that's part of what keeps you around. And that's the truth.

My AF2 doesn't feel like an accomplishment. It feels like I ran a dungeon like a zombie for a few weeks and got welfare blues.

[Overon]

There is this strange thing called "Outside" .
You will find that there is People "Outside" .
Activities such as finding a "Relationship" with another Human being ......

Ride a Bike , Lift Weights , Go out on Dates , Work , Drive a Car , Go to the Beach , Fish in Real Life O.O , Build Something .........................be productive ....................................
I get my Myth Cap done on Monday , spam AK to death , then I have the rest of the week to level another job or harass my wife and kids .............not to mention that pesky thing called Work..............

[Sotek]

There is this strange thing called "Outside" .
You will find that there is People "Outside" .
Activities such as finding a "Relationship" with another Human being ......

Ride a Bike , Lift Weights , Go out on Dates , Work , Drive a Car , Go to the Beach , Fish in Real Life O.O , Build Something .........................be productive ....................................
I get my Myth Cap done on Monday , spam AK to death , then I have the rest of the week to level another job or harass my wife and kids .............not to mention that pesky thing called Work..............

Oh, is that what the subscription fee is for? Here I thought I was paying for game content, when in actuality I'm paying so I can go out and ride a bike. Who knew!

And obviously anyone who is bored of endgame doesn't go outside/have friends/etc when endgame can literally only take up 30 minutes of your day, depending on how you handle Coil... That overwhelming amount of endgame content is really detrimental to peoples social lives...

[NolLacnala]

Somebody decided that grinding for tokens is better than grinding bosses for drops

I'd rather grind a boss for a chance at an actual piece of loot

So you'd be alright with Ifrit/Garuda/Titan 20-30 times before seeing your item drop? Possibly more if you're unlucky. If you're an outlier, it finally drops on your fiftieth attempt, only to lose the roll to the player who shares your class but spent the entire fight dead on the floor. I was lucky and got my BLM Ifrit weapon on my forth attempt, but there are many, many others who are at 30+ Primal kills and have yet to even see their goal, let alone win the roll.

Tons of AK runs, I have seen the Demogogue hat once. I have only seen the tank ring once. I've helped kill HM Garuda nearly twenty times. I have seen several SCH books, a handful of SMN books, two WHM staves and one PLD sword. And you're alright with this system?

[DmitriMosolov]

And you must have never played XI

[DmitriMosolov]

This person must have never played EQ... casuals... HA.

And you must have never played XI

[Emtron]

There is this strange thing called "Outside" .
You will find that there is People "Outside" .
Activities such as finding a "Relationship" with another Human being ......

Ride a Bike , Lift Weights , Go out on Dates , Work , Drive a Car , Go to the Beach , Fish in Real Life O.O , Build Something .........................be productive ....................................
I get my Myth Cap done on Monday , spam AK to death , then I have the rest of the week to level another job or harass my wife and kids .............not to mention that pesky thing called Work..............

Outside sounds scary.