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    You can't tell me what to read and do, Wizard, you're not my real dad! I'll read/notread/do whatever I want!
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    -Ahem-

    I am formally making a request to close this thread. Here are my reasons.

    The original intention was to get the Square Enix Developers attention to address a problem PBC/DGKK have. They are the same guild, but must spread members across two FCs.

    The projected goals were as follows:
    Either
    A) Allow a greater number for a guild cap, so that all 800+ members can be in the same FC
    Or
    B) Get confirmation that there will, indeed, be a guild alliance option, to merge communication and/or housing.

    A developer confirmed that Scenario B will come into effect at some point. Therefore, this threads purpose has been fulfilled. The only other reason to leave it open would be for an ETA of said feature. But that may be expecting too much.



    Keeping the thread open, however, leaves this thread particularly vulnerable to one of several, oft repeated, instances. Posts that follow along the lines of (And with the general responses underneath):
    1) "How is it possible to hit the cap!?!"
    -Picture of both FC's numbers-
    2) "You guys shouldn't need that much space. Kick inactives"
    -Many are active, those that are not have things to do in real life, but still play the game on convenient times. Like weekends-
    3) "I don't understand how you guys manage that many"
    -The FCs come from another community, and are generally well-behaved and get along-
    4) "Quality > Quantity"
    -That's your opinion. Has nothing to do with PBC/DGKK-
    5) "Solution, use linkshells"
    -Currently doing so. Not feasible to maintain. Linkshell cap is much lower-
    6) "Solution, use talk chat like Mumble/TeamSpeak/GameVox/Whatever else"
    -Currently doing so. Not ideal. Voice chat on at all times to communicate between potentially 800 players can be immensely noisy-
    7) "Solution, use outside forum"
    -Currently doing so. Have done so since 1.0-
    8) "You just want the biggest FC to brag. You probably spam /shout for recruiting"
    -Guildmasters don't recruit, people ask to join of their own volition. Guild forum is MANDATORY to even be considered.-
    9) (Complaints about personal attacks in the form of a personal attack)
    -(insert sarcasm here)-

    That is a summary of the entire thread for all of you too lazy to read through all 34 pages that I put myself through today.

    Moderators. Please close this thread. It can do nothing here but derail further.
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    Last edited by IceMateria; 10-20-2013 at 06:48 PM. Reason: Fixed formatting. Added highlights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IceMateria View Post
    -Ahem-

    I am formally making a request to close this thread. Here are my reasons.

    The original intention was to get the Square Enix Developers attention to address a problem PBC/DGKK have. They are the same guild, but must spread members across two FCs.

    The projected goals were as follows:
    Either
    A) Allow a greater number for a guild cap, so that all 800+ members can be in the same FC
    Or
    B) Get confirmation that there will, indeed, be a guild alliance option, to merge communication and/or housing.

    A developer confirmed that Scenario B will come into effect at some point. Therefore, this threads purpose has been fulfilled. The only other reason to leave it open would be for an ETA of said feature. But that may be expecting too much.



    Keeping the thread open, however, leaves this thread particularly vulnerable to one of several, oft repeated, instances. Posts that follow along the lines of (And with the general responses underneath):
    1) "How is it possible to hit the cap!?!"
    -Picture of both FC's numbers-
    2) "You guys shouldn't need that much space. Kick inactives"
    -Many are active, those that are not have things to do in real life, but still play the game on convenient times. Like weekends-
    3) "I don't understand how you guys manage that many"
    -The FCs come from another community, and are generally well-behaved and get along-
    4) "Quality > Quantity"
    -That's your opinion. Has nothing to do with PBC/DGKK-
    5) "Solution, use linkshells"
    -Currently doing so. Not feasible to maintain. Linkshell cap is much lower-
    6) "Solution, use talk chat like Mumble/TeamSpeak/GameVox/Whatever else"
    -Currently doing so. Not ideal. Voice chat on at all times to communicate between potentially 800 players can be immensely noisy-
    7) "Solution, use outside forum"
    -Currently doing so. Have done so since 1.0-
    8) "You just want the biggest FC to brag. You probably spam /shout for recruiting"
    -Guildmasters don't recruit, people ask to join of their own volition. Guild forum is MANDATORY to even be considered.-
    9) (Complaints about personal attacks in the form of a personal attack)
    -(insert sarcasm here)-

    That is a summary of the entire thread for all of you too lazy to read through all 34 pages that I put myself through today.

    Moderators. Please close this thread. It can do nothing here but derail further.
    I wonder if we should quote this at the top of every page going forward or something.
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    There should be lots of people inactive by know. Everyone can see that the servers arent as full as in the beginning. Plus server transfer.

    Can I get a picture of Page 3 TOP and BOTTOM as of today from that 512 FC?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronyx View Post
    There should be lots of people inactive by know. Everyone can see that the servers arent as full as in the beginning. Plus server transfer.

    Can I get a picture of Page 3 TOP and BOTTOM as of today from that 512 FC?
    Please. Stop. Seriously.

    Thread over. Done. No one cares.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronyx View Post
    There should be lots of people inactive by know. Everyone can see that the servers arent as full as in the beginning. Plus server transfer.

    Can I get a picture of Page 3 TOP and BOTTOM as of today from that 512 FC?
    I already did this, read the thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by Volcano View Post
    Well it is your fault for making this thread, as i am sure you have already heard this many times now, you do not need that much capacity, even 512 is to much.

    This is what linkshells are for and why you have 8 slots for them. so that lower capacity excuse is null, Do regular spring cleanings and kick out deadweight. set a limit on how long someone has not been on to remove. but asking for more, unneeded space so you can just pile bodies is not a good idea. and you are right, i sure as hell am not about to read through 34 pages of this crap. so i'm sure this has been beaten into your head already. but i'll go ahead and give you one last reminder. YOU DO NOT NEED MORE FC SPACE, IT'S ALREADY TO MUCH AS IS.

    I hope you learned your lesson now. do not ask for things that are not needed. if you truly have 1000+ members ( good luck keeping tabs on all of them) you're going to have one hell of a time organizing, as that is about a quater of a server, and i highly doubt you're anything so special as to everyone wanting to hop in, i mean with that many members i would stay as far away as possible from a FC like that. cause you end up becoming a number without a face.
    If you spent as much time reading the thread as you did posting mean-spirited, hateful nonsense that is factually incorrect, you would know that you are wrong. And a very mean person.

    I am the PBC officer in charge of organizing our playerbase via web-based applications, though, so thank you for the "luck" wished, though I'm doing a very good job so I don't really need it.
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    Last edited by BotenAnna; 10-21-2013 at 02:40 AM.

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    Gods forfend why is this thread still live? Everything that needed to be said (and a whole lot that didn't) has been hashed over 20 times. Game devs have already chimed in and said what they've got planned. If you're new to this thread and haven't read pages 1 through 30 then you have nothing new to add, let the thread die.
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    Well it is your fault for making this thread, as i am sure you have already heard this many times now, you do not need that much capacity, even 512 is to much.

    This is what linkshells are for and why you have 8 slots for them. so that lower capacity excuse is null, Do regular spring cleanings and kick out deadweight. set a limit on how long someone has not been on to remove. but asking for more, unneeded space so you can just pile bodies is not a good idea. and you are right, i sure as hell am not about to read through 34 pages of this crap. so i'm sure this has been beaten into your head already. but i'll go ahead and give you one last reminder. YOU DO NOT NEED MORE FC SPACE, IT'S ALREADY TO MUCH AS IS.

    I hope you learned your lesson now. do not ask for things that are not needed. if you truly have 1000+ members ( good luck keeping tabs on all of them) you're going to have one hell of a time organizing, as that is about a quater of a server, and i highly doubt you're anything so special as to everyone wanting to hop in, i mean with that many members i would stay as far away as possible from a FC like that. cause you end up becoming a number without a face.


    Actually nevermind, to many of the respones to this post was way to dumb and brown nose worthy to not even waste a post bumping this topic. i'll just leave with this edit while this thread dies when enough people cry, SE will cater to them, so good luck with your 1000+ members.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrandor View Post
    I hope you've learned your lesson now.
    Since you had the most idiotic post of them all i'll at least give you a lesson. Just because someone has 1 account does not mean it's there main. if you kids stop trying to lodestone characters and judge them based off that you might be a little less ignorant. as i have alot more then "5 freinds" and with that horrible little edit you did that made you look the most foolish. unlike you and the other kids that responded to my post they are actually mature and in reality. So i hope YOU learned your lesson now.

    the only lesson i have learned here is don't take toys out of crying babies play pin or they will cry louder. but thanks for trying.
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    Last edited by Volcano; 10-24-2013 at 06:35 PM. Reason: Had to school kids. but was not worth even wasting a post on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volcano View Post
    Well it is your fault for making this thread, as i am sure you have already heard this many times now, you do not need that much capacity, even 512 is to much.

    This is what linkshells are for and why you have 8 slots for them. so that lower capicity excuse is null, Do regular spring cleanings and kick out deadweight. set a limit on how long someone has not been on to remove. but asking for more, unneeded space so you can just pile bodies is not a good idea. and you are right, i sure as hell am not about to read through 34 pages of this crap. so i'm sure this has been beaten into your head already. but i'll go ahead and give you one last reminder. YOU DO NOT NEED MORE FC SPACE, IT'S ALREADY TO MUCH AS IS.

    I hope you learned your lesson now. do not ask for things that are not needed. if you truely have 1000+ members ( good luck keeping tabs on all of them) you're going to have one hell of a time organizing, as that is about a quater of a server, and i higlhy doubt you're anything so special as to everyone wanting to hop in, i mean with that many members i would stay as far away as possible from a FC like that. cause you end up becoming a number without a face.
    The Dev team answered the question posed by the OP. Stop posting here. It's not a question of size.

    And any information on the current size of the guild is no longer pertinent.
    If you wish to complain about current guild size, make a new thread elsewhere. Don't complain about it here.

    (There will be a way to have guild alliance, That's all they wanted to know.)

    Everyone is tired of this. Even the people complaining about the OP
    Mods. /Thread
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    Last edited by IceMateria; 10-20-2013 at 07:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volcano View Post
    abloo abloo agoo I have 5 online friends and have never been part of a bigger online community so nobody else could possibly have the need for this and I should totally know this because all my 5 friends tell me my opinions are the best in the world
    I hope you've learned your lesson now.
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