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  1. #211
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    Magus42's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Feylan Raha
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    Excalibur
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by NargaHuntress View Post
    I've read it quite enough.
    Clearly you didn't, because we addressed your concerns already.

    Short version: we're all members of the same website, and we like to play games together. There are over 800 of us between main FC and overflow FC.
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  2. #212
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    Tremors's Avatar
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    Cmdr Shepard
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    Excalibur
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by NargaHuntress View Post
    I've read it quite enough. To be honest I stopped when they was going back and forth with other people. I see no reason to expand the FC limit. If they are doing what they say they are doing then the limit should be manageable.
    It's nice that you and others are trying to assert that 800 is smaller than 512.
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  3. #213
    Player Nica's Avatar
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    Nica Valca
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    Sargatanas
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan94 View Post
    No FC has more than 512 active members. Try culling your herd of characters that don't play anymore or don't participate in the FC.
    Don't let your limited experience blind you, there are MUCH larger player organizations out there. Hell, take SA's Eve presence for example, last time i looked their alliance was well over 3k strong.

    There's only so much data servers can reasonably handle. Most whiners who always demand more inventory or more guild members allowed don't ever consider this.
    Best stop talking about things you don't know. Inventory size limitation is purely one of gameplay balance, not some sort of "database limitation". This isn't 1994, and SE isn't using 486s as their server.

    Using Eve as an example again, EVERY SINGLE inventory location is capable of holding ONE THOUSAND unique item stacks, with the maximum stack size being... whatever the limit is for 32 or 64 bit integers iirc (most I've gotten is around a few billions in a single stack). And there is practically limitless number of places where you can store items - every one of the thousands of stations, outposts, and every one of your ships, pos hangars... and this goes for every single eve character.

    Right now a single ARR character can have at the most 765 item slots beyond what is equipped on their person, with 490 of those capale of holding items up to 99 per slot.

    A single one of my Eve character will easily use 100+ times that number of "slots", and if you factor in actual unit count... probably more than an entire server, if not all servers combined, and I'm not even an industrialist.

    and I have 9 characters.



    There are over 500k active Eve subscribers, with each account capable of holding 3 characters. Adding in the inactive but not deleted characters ( which still have all their stuff), you're looking at over 2 mil Eve characters. With every single one capable of holding more items than every characters in all of ARR.

    By your assertion, either CCP is secretly using an alien super computer to run Eve, or SE is using a team of monkeys with abacuses to run ARR.

    That, or your assertion is simply incorrect, you tell me which is more likely.
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    Last edited by Nica; 10-11-2013 at 09:39 PM.

  4. #214
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    Kitya's Avatar
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    Isabelle Guevenne
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    Leviathan
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    What's your guild name on WoW? Just curious.
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  5. #215
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    Shere Nekomiko
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 25
    Everyone who thinks 512 is something more important than some arbitrary number a developer picked one day is hilarious. There's no functional reason the size can't be expanded. Even if it were one guy and his 799 alts, there's no ultimate reason for there to be a hard cap on the size to begin with. Zero.
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  6. #216
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 45
    This is truly the best thread. I never knew that reading comprehension was in such a state!
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  7. #217
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    Rochelle Rochelle
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    Excalibur
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    Lancer Lv 50
    I'm a spy in PBC and I'm also an alt.

    Peace out nerds.
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  8. #218
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    Maki Maki'
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    Faerie
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    Weaver Lv 90
    I'm interested in seeing whatever the response ends up being to this. Were in in SE's position I would probably refuse for a variety of reasons; the number one being that if you are indeed bringing another 400~500 people over to Excalibur with world transfers, that ends up leaving your FC with almost 1/7th of the entire server population... which I personally would consider to be unfair in the sense that it'll basically become your server, particularly if the FC continues to grow. But hey, SE already opened this can of worms by having such a large limit in the first place, and I am in fact NOT in SE's position. Curious to see how this plays out.
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  9. #219
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    Kaiser Dragon
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by CaZx View Post
    If you have 1000 people in your FC..guild..w/e you want to call it than you simply have people for the sake of having people...which is why the limits exist in the first place.
    Quote Originally Posted by Velthice View Post
    ...Or we're an established community that want to play a game together. That could be a possibility too you know. Just sayin.

    Quote Originally Posted by BotenAnna View Post


    Between 512 and 1024! See above. Please note that we regularly remove players that haven't logged in recently, as well.

    sound smore like a zergsponge than an established guild...
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    Ein rotäugiger Kunde betritt dein Geschäft.
    Halb Engel, halb Todesgott.
    Du wirst ihm die Geheimnisse des Kalenders verkaufen.
    Besonders über jene des elften wird er sich freuen.
    Der Kunde wird an einem warmen Tag zurückkehren
    und dich allein mit dem Mann mit Petruskreuz lassen.
    Der falsche vierte Mond wird aus dem Kalender fallen.
    Es verbleiben nur sechs Blätter.

  10. #220
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    Tyrandor's Avatar
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    Tyrandor Ironfist
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Itachi View Post
    sound smore like a zergsponge than an established guild...
    As has been said, we are from an online community called the Something Awful Forums.
    That forum has 182,495 registered users total. Of those, at 8am EDT, about 4250 are logged in.

    Thank you for not reading the thread, where the background of our FC has been pointed out repeatedly, and then still giving your uninformed opinion on the matter.
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