Amdapor Exploit

[Vodomir]

... and as such is NOT AN EXPLOIT simply an alternative strategy to make a grind dungeon go a bit faster.

As someone already pointed out the whole "standing on the tree thing" is officially an accepted bug and by definition using a bug to one's advantage clearly is an exploit, no matter how you put it. Thanks for taking part in this discussion.

[Vodomir]

bla bla bla. aren't you just the moral authority?

I don't know about your moral standards, but if someone robs a bank, he robs a bank, doesn't matter if all he got was a few cents or if he later on decides to turn himself in to the police (because he realized the whole thing was taped). The same principle applies here, a ToS violation is a ToS violation, don't know why you even try to defend such behaviour. Sitting in the same boat as them?

[AlternativeOne]

I was in a group where both the brd and whm jumped into the tree. I didnt think nothing of it. Now that you guys are crying about it Im gonna make fuss if I see it again. Things dont become a problem till some one starts crying. Damn all this community does is bitch.

[Aryden]

I'm having trouble finding this as a confirmed bug. Can someone please post the link?

[Vodomir]

I'm having trouble finding this as a confirmed bug. Can someone please post the link?

There you go: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...or#post1225791

And before you start with "But it's not under confirmed bugs" you better take a look at that section, there's virtually no "confirmed bug" in that section, maybe that section isn't used as it's supposed to be, or stuff just doesn't have enough priority to be "confirmed". Additionally, if it was working as intended, then the bug report would have gone into the "working as intended" subcategory (as that one is for sure used, as you can tell by the dozens of threads in that category).

[Vodomir]

I was in a group where both the brd and whm jumped into the tree. I didnt think nothing of it. Now that you guys are crying about it Im gonna make fuss if I see it again. Things dont become a problem till some one starts crying. Damn all this community does is bitch.

Huh? So in your eyes violating the ToS using obvious exploits/bugs is not a problem, as long as no one talks about it? Come on. That's like some guys gang raping a girl in a bus full of other people and everyone else just turns away and pretends to see nothing ... if something is wrong, it doesn't magically turn out to be the right thing just because everyone keeps silent about it. Golems and AoE attacks are clearly not meant to be avoided by standing on a tree. Placing a ranged DPS up on that tree, just makes things even worse, as your DPS can kill stuff while barely being hit at all. You don't see how this in not intended?

[Tyrial]

I was in a group where both the brd and whm jumped into the tree. I didnt think nothing of it. Now that you guys are crying about it Im gonna make fuss if I see it again. Things dont become a problem till some one starts crying. Damn all this community does is bitch.

And this is why the Salvage bans from FFXI hit the community so hard. Yes...let's just keep game breaking bugs a secret so you can exploit them.

Mind you, definitely NOT calling this game breaking, it's more mind boggling if anything.

[Horg]

The only thing which "boggles my mind" is that people seriously think that it's alright to use this exploit, as if it's the intended design of that tree...I really really hope they drop the Banhammer hard on anyone who uses this. I really can't imagine their real life behavior; if they steal clothes because, why else would Kohls just leave all these shirts out in the middle of the store, they must have intended for me to take it for free. If they didn't intend for me to steal it they should put up invisible walls around everything.

[melisande]

LOL @ anyone thinking anyone will get banned for utilizing the environment of their dungeon, that SE has yet to 'fix', probably because it was put there on purpose.

[Horg]

The subject of this thread is confirmed as a bug...according to the TOS SE can ban people for utilizing it (doesn't mean they will, but they should), I'm not sure why people are still saying it's "utilizing the environment of their dungeon".

Definition of the "Accepted Bugs"
Bug reports moved to Accepted Bugs will be investigated and confirmed.
*Which leads us to believe anything that makes it into this section is not intended and was something SE overlooked when they designed the room. Why investigate something they intended to add into the game?

Forum Thread for the Exploit
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...or#post1225791

@Melisande - Try at least skimming through the information already posted in a thread before confirming your stupidity to the community.