Coil Needs Changes

[KariArisu]

The lockout system on Coil is BS.

As Coil is the only endgame worth doing right now, it's pretty dumb to have a group of more or less than 8 people playing the game with you.

Have 10 people in your group that are ready and willing to do coil? Well screw you, because 2 of them aren't going to get to go with you each week.

A simple solution would be to change the loot system from direct drops to currency, then instead of locking people out of the dungeon on completion, lock them out of rewards. Have you completed Turn 1 this week? Then you can help a friend with Turn 1 so he can get the currency, but you're not allowed to receive more currency this week. Comparatively, the lockout right now, I imagine, is mostly to prevent people from rotating one person and having them receive 2 whole pieces of gear.

Honestly SE, do something. Your endgame needs work. It's completely vertical and this lock-out crap on Coil is just NOT okay on a weekly timer.

[RaphaelDDL]

I love how people rage at a 1~2month old game saying 'endgame' like lv50 ended the story and is max cap forever, and this is all we have for all eternity. That's what you get for fate grinding all day and getting on the cap level so fast, deal with it.

Wait for 2.1, they will implement more stuff, you know.
And then other patches, and other expansions and everything that every MMO have. They are never released full balanced, never without problems. But that's sortable.


Like they love to say, 'please look forward to it'.

[Ladon]

I love how people rage at a 1~2month old game saying 'endgame' like lv50 ended the story and is max cap forever, and this is all we have for all eternity. That's what you get for fate grinding all day and getting on the cap level so fast, deal with it.

Wait for 2.1, they will implement more stuff, you know.
And then other patches, and other expansions and everything that every MMO have. They are never released full balanced, never without problems. But that's sortable.


Like they love to say, 'please look forward to it'.

I don't know how many times this needs to be pointed out, but ARR is not a new game. It is a new version of a game that had been out for a while and there are 10 packed servers worth of people that transferred max level characters to. ARR was expected to be designed with this in mind so writing the issue off as a bunch of people consuming content too fast then whining is not valid.

[Kyngx]

The lockout system on Coil is BS.

A simple solution would be to change the loot system from direct drops to currency, then instead of locking people out of the dungeon on completion, lock them out of rewards.

I agree with this, but the whole "10 people in your group" is a more personal problem. Can't really expect an MMO to cater to the specific amount of friends you have.

I love how people rage at a 1~2month old game saying 'endgame' like lv50 ended the story and is max cap forever, and this is all we have for all eternity.

Coil is endgame... right now atleast. Endgame doesn't mean the final content in that certain game's life.

[AjoraOak]

I love how people rage at a 1~2month old game saying 'endgame' like lv50 ended the story and is max cap forever, and this is all we have for all eternity. That's what you get for fate grinding all day and getting on the cap level so fast, deal with it.

Wait for 2.1, they will implement more stuff, you know.
And then other patches, and other expansions and everything that every MMO have. They are never released full balanced, never without problems. But that's sortable.


Like they love to say, 'please look forward to it'.

Yeah, the new update will be out and we get ilvl 80 content! WOOOoooOooOoooOooo. (Also pvp, let's hope there won't be any reserving instances problems or massive lag issues with players warping around)
Isn't BC ilvl90?
NO SHUT UP, STOP RUSHING ENDGAME AND JUST LEVEL MORE JOBS YOU DON'T NEED.

I love the FF community, we're basically getting what the game should have been ON release day with 2.1.

[KariArisu]

I love how people rage at a 1~2month old game saying 'endgame' like lv50 ended the story and is max cap forever, and this is all we have for all eternity. That's what you get for fate grinding all day and getting on the cap level so fast, deal with it.

Wait for 2.1, they will implement more stuff, you know.
And then other patches, and other expansions and everything that every MMO have. They are never released full balanced, never without problems. But that's sortable.

Are you serious? I didn't cap fast at all.

2.1 brings Crystal Tower, which gives Item Level 80. Coil is Item Level 90, which is the current endgame. Crystal Tower will be fun and give us new gear improvements until we finish Relic/Allagan gear, but it's not new endgame. 2.2 will likely give us another coil-like dungeon with lockouts. Their current plans for endgame are not looking good, and they have mentioned they have no plans to change Coil. Bad for the game.

[Sidious]

I love how people rage at a 1~2month old game saying 'endgame' like lv50 ended the story and is max cap forever, and this is all we have for all eternity. That's what you get for fate grinding all day and getting on the cap level so fast, deal with it.

Wait for 2.1, they will implement more stuff, you know.
And then other patches, and other expansions and everything that every MMO have. They are never released full balanced, never without problems. But that's sortable.


Like they love to say, 'please look forward to it'.

And *I* love when the white knights forget that YoshiP himself said that "the game doesn't start until endgame".

[RaphaelDDL]

And *I* love when the white knights forget that YoshiP himself said that "the game doesn't start until endgame".

And I love how people fate grind all day, get lv50 in a couple days and start raging at the game.

[Lelouch001]

And I love how people fate grind all day, get lv50 in a couple days and start raging at the game.

What you said does nothing to combat his post its just blatant white knighting. Hes still right about what yoshida said yet the game doesn't deliver on what he said.

[Zumi]

Yea it does suck if you have like 10 people wanting to go but you can only take 8. That's how most MMOs work these days with raids. There is a 1 week lockout you can't do it more then once. It forces a set roster. You can always recruit for the bench have those guys step in when someone can't make it.