Crafting and spiritbond

[rzr22]

I've decided to wear some gear I wish to spiritbond while crafting. In order to maximize my material to spiritbond ratio, what actions increase spiritbond with your gear? Does any action? Is it only touch/synthesis? Do you only get spiritbond for completion?

[Raldo]

1) You only get spiritbond for completion.
2) You get the same amount of spiritbond for quick-synthing as you do from crafting normally (except, of course, that quick synth will fail a little).
3) The amount of spiritbond you get is based off of the difference between the item level of whatever you're spiritbonding, and the synth level (note that 1-star and 2-star synths are considered to be above lv50 synths, I think). If your synth is more than 10 levels below the iLvl of a piece of equipment, then that piece will gain no spiritbond at all. Also, I'm told that synths above the level of the equipment do not give any more spiritbond than synths equal to the level of the equipment.
4) The amount of spiritbond a piece of equipment gets is increased substantially if the equipment is HQ.
5) The amount of spiritbond a piece of equipment gets is increased substantially if the equipment is melded onto (moreso if it has multiple melds, I'm told). I do not know if the grade of materia affects the rate increase, but I know the type doesn't, so feel free to waste those useless elemental materia.
6) Spiritbond+ gear doesn't seem to add much to spiritbonding (estimates place each +1 spiritbond to a +1% increase), so you're better off spiritbonding other pieces of gear instead of wearing non-convertible spiritbond equipment.
7) Aetheryte Rings don't grant crafting materia (so far all I've seen them give is base-stat materia and elemental materia).
8) iLvl55 items can grant tier-4 materia, but most of the time you'll get tier-3s.

Bonus: 300 quick synths of a lv50 recipe gets you approximately 75% spiritbond for a non-melded piece of HQ iLvl55 gear. The shard cost is very exorbitant to spiritbond iLvl55 gear.

I think that covers all the bases. Let me know if you are left with any further questions.

[MithrasInvictus]

Raldo, since you seem to be quite knowledgeable on the subject, do you know if converting melded gear has any effect on which materia the gear converts into?

[rzr22]

300 quick synths of a lv50 recipe gets you approximately 75% spiritbond for a non-melded piece of HQ iLvl55 gear.

Thank you for the info. Do you know how much different HQ spirit bond rates are from non-HQ? Is it enough to bother HQing every item?

[Raldo]

Raldo, since you seem to be quite knowledgeable on the subject, do you know if converting melded gear has any effect on which materia the gear converts into?

I do not know, but I would assume not. Most crafting gear can only turn into crafting materia, so I don't see why socketing elemental materia on it would have any affect on your results.

Thank you for the info. Do you know how much different HQ spirit bond rates are from non-HQ? Is it enough to bother HQing every item?

I'm told the bonus is 10~20%, but I haven't personally tested it. It's in some other thread around here, but I've forgotten which/where. Whether that's worth it is entirely up to you.

A couple of notes about this for clarity's sake...
1) Just to be clear, I am referring to the gear that you're wearing, not the result of the synth. I do not know if the result of the synth (HQ vs NQ) has any bearing on the amount of spiritbond you earn.
2) The bonus is specific to that single piece of gear only. If you are wearing all NQ stuff, and only an HQ belt, the HQ belt will not increase the spiritbond rate of anything but your belt.

[Reinheart]

Everything Raldo said + also this may sound dumb... but killing mobs with your crafter/gatherer class raises your spirit bond rate... I was playing around with my buddy chocobo and noticed this (Was killing Hypogryph in Mor Dhona) so if someone can test a full PT with mixed crafters/gatherers (to spirit bond) and fighters through pile of mobs say at beastmen fort might be good/fast? w I haven't tested the full party method yet so can't say it will work.

Just to add... calling out your Chocobo and fighting on your crafter/gatherer doesn't give XP to the Chocobo
And noticed some fates you can't join in, ones where mobs tries to attack NPC worked, boss type ones I got a error message even in low level FATE areas.

I do this. I'll throw on some crafting accessories in CM. I also got about 30-50% spiritbond in one group during Dark Devices, but that only happens every hour and is the only thing that players regularly team up with to kills tons of mobs.

Yeah, that too, but I'm talking about actually killing mobs with your gatherer/crafter class while wearing the body piece and everything, not only the accessories. I know it sound dumb but just putting it out there for those that want a different way lol.
Was like 3 hypos for 1% increase, dunno if that's good or bad... w

[rzr22]

Ah, I misread.

Everything Raldo said + also this may sound dumb... but killing mobs with your crafter/gatherer gives raises your spirit bond rate... I was playing around with my buddy chocobo and noticed this (Was killing Hypogryph in Mor Dhona) so if someone can test a full PT with mixed crafters/gatherers (to spirit bond) and fighters through pile of mobs say at beastmen fort might be good/fast? w I haven't tested the full party method yet so can't say it will work.

I do this. I'll throw on some crafting accessories in CM. I also got about 30-50% spiritbond in one group during Dark Devices, but that only happens every hour and is the only thing that players regularly team up with to kills tons of mobs.

[Raldo]

Just so nobody comes in here with delusions of grandeur about how much money they can make spiritbonding their iLv55 crafting gear, here's a taste of what I got out of some of gear after more than 300 Mega-Ether synths.

The materials themselves were dirt cheap, but at 12 shards per synth, that's well over 3600 shards. It's questionable whether or not I even turned a profit thanks to the abysmally-low chance at tier-4 materia.

Note: It would've been more profitable if I'd thrown some materia on the gear so it would spiritbond faster, but I did not know about that at the time.

[AridElf]

Yeah, that too, but I'm talking about actually killing mobs with your gatherer/crafter class while wearing the body piece and everything, not only the accessories. I know it sound dumb but just putting it out there for those that want a different way lol.
Was like 3 hypos for 1% increase, dunno if that's good or bad... w

You could just equip the crafting/gathering gear onto a combat class instead, totally works plus you can level your chocobo in the process. Just be careful not to nerf yourself with too much non-combat gear. I'll have a look for myself about DoW/DoM with DoL/DoH parties.

[Ksenia]

Spiritbond while you are farming the months worth of coke and Potash. By the time you get enough to make a suit you should have loads of materia.