Duty Finder tip: How to get groups FASTER via Duty Finder:

[Nanga]

I am reposting this due to the number of complaint threads I am seeing, again, from folks who are unaware that they are inadvertently causing their own huge delays in getting duty finder groups:

Select all four language buttons (JEDF) at the top-right corner of the Duty Finder window.


I'm surprised it took me and other folks to realize this, but there was something we were NOT doing until this weekend, which was actually preventing us from getting groups in Duty Finder more frequently, and it has to do with the server we play on.

The language setting in the Duty Finder window!

I and my Free Company are english-only speakers on a Japanese Server. So, naturally, we had our default language set to "E" only, for english. Well, it turns out this was actually hindering our ability to get groups in Duty Finder.

Once we started checking each language box, JEDF, our time spent in the Duty Finder dropped significantly. It didn't dawn on us until now that we were actually restricting ourselves from getting into groups where everyone else only had the "J" language selected. Sure, once we changed it to where we selected all languages we got into many more groups - and most of them didn't speak a lick of English, it really didn't matter much for duties we knew how to complete anyways. We've cut-and-pasted a simple phrase from Google Translator to let the rest of the group know we are English-only, a simple greeting, and if they need to give us instructions to please say our name first so we know to copy their message and translate it via Google's Translator.

Anyways. I hope this tip helps other folks. It was very surprising to us to see how significant of a difference it makes when you select ALL languages in Duty Finder.

Edit: As others noted in this thread, for best results, make sure you know the Duty fairly well before using this method to get groups faster in Duty Finder. While people should not be offended over others joining a Duty Finder group and speaking another language (it promotes socializing), some people are just downright mean about it. I haven't noticed this on the Japanese servers, but from the sounds of it, the NA/EU servers seem to have an issue over language barriers. Use of the in-game Auto-Translator is good for overcoming these, or do what I am my pals do: cut-and paste to Google Translate for more complex issues.

Good luck!

[flamds1]

If people know the dungeons, what to do, and how to target during a pull, there's really not much you need to communicate. I just did a run through hat and I don't think any of the people in the group spoke english, or at least they never responded to me. Conjurer ran the whole instance with cleric stance up even after I asked him if he knew it was on he didn't respond.

[BooskiBoo]

This is rad dood!

As an added note: Go in as tank class with the above tips... Insta Dungeon.

[Tooth]

I never thought about this, thanks OP.

[Gilthas]

Nooooooo!

If everyone starts doing that my Duty Finder waiting times will increase.

[O_Villania]

I would not recommend this...

Well, maybe for few low-lvl dungeons it's fine, but as the dungeon lvl goes up, more and more "accidents" tends to happen and the need for communication arises sometimes.


There use to be a thread in JP forum demanding for more "strict enforcement of language selection in Duty Finder" due to above reasons.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...IDの難度の低下が必要です！

[Nanga]

Nooooooo!

If everyone starts doing that my Duty Finder waiting times will increase.

Well, it's important for people to know that the Duty Finder is restricted by language selection, and thereby people are creating their own really long wait times if they don't select other languages, especially the primary language of that server. I imagine D/F (German/French) people wait EVEN LONGER than 2-3 hours on a JP server, if they don't select JP. I was getting 2-3 hour waits easily before I started selecting J. Since then, I haven't waited longer than 30 mins, even during JP peak hours.

[Ryios]

Imo... They should use the google translate API and add it to the client.

E.g.

Player A has set in their config that they speak english
Player B has set in their config that they speak japanese

Player A and Player B enter a group,

Player A has auto translate turned on so when player b types in chat, player a's client automatically google translate what they said and displays the english translation.

Though this should be something users can turn off on their end if it makes them lag.

[Nanga]

I would not recommend this...

Well, maybe for few low-lvl dungeons it's fine, but as the dungeon lvl goes up, more and more "accidents" tends to happen and the need for communication arises sometimes.


There use to be a thread in JP forum demanding for more "strict enforcement of language selection in Duty Finder" due to above reasons.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...IDの難度の低下が必要です！

You're using a 1-page thread (which by reading all the responses, is NOT supported by everyone who responded) is hardly very credible evidence to suggest the ENTIRE Japanese community feels the same way as the extremely tiny minority who apparently posted that message.

But, to humor you, reading the thread, it's from someone who didn't like language barriers when it was necessary to communicate what to do in dungeons to people who are unfamiliar with it, ie newbies. As my tip covered, it is only really recommended to join other language DF groups when you are quite familiar already with that duty, and barely any instruction is necessary. Furthermore, pre-communicating to everyone that there is a language barrier and to be patient with you while translating, has ALWAYS, in my experience, netted positive results, positive responses, and even very friendly attitudes.

So, judging by my own experience which is completely contradictory to the SMALL minority you quoted, I think it is quite alright to join other language duties. It has YET to be a problem for me or anyone I've played with, and none of them have ever expressed any negativity over it. Matter of fact, I've accomplished far more in JP groups than English-only groups, and I can't recall any of those JP groups expressing negativity whatsoever towards me. However, I've been in many major FAIL english groups, and lots of blaming goes around - almost always directed at the language barrier, rather than the real problem. Point here is: language barriers are rarely the problem. It's either the people themselves, or how the instructions are given.

Edit: And lastly, it's pretty obvious why SE doesn't totally restrict languages from inter-mingling: they want to promote the world to play together, not segregate based on languages. With an auto-translator built in, that much is obvious.

[Nanga]

Imo... They should use the google translate API and add it to the client.

E.g.

Player A has set in their config that they speak english
Player B has set in their config that they speak japanese

Player A and Player B enter a group,

Player A has auto translate turned on so when player b types in chat, player a's client automatically google translate what they said and displays the english translation.

Though this should be something users can turn off on their end if it makes them lag.

Oh I completely agree here Google Translate's API is pretty fast, too. I can imagine it getting slow if someone is trying to write a book in a single statement, but for one-liners, etc, which is most communication anyways, it's very fast.