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    ok so i have been wondering this for awhile i have a lvl 50 pal my shield is lvl 42 has 180 block strength and 37 block rate why is it i cant find a shield that is better beside dark steel all the lvl 50 shield have no block strenght just block rate why is that you would think a lvl 50 shield would have both good block rate and block strenght
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    You only have a few options if that's what you're looking for:

    Darksteel shield from WP

    Scarred/Kite Shield (HQ)

    Relic/+1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrial View Post
    You only have a few options if that's what you're looking for:

    Darklight shield from WP

    Scarred/Kite Shield (HQ)

    Relic/+1
    Fixed it for you, and also you Forgot the Crafted Darksteel Scutum, which i used prior to relic and it was awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elendil_Voronda View Post
    Fixed it for you, and also you Forgot the Crafted Darksteel Scutum, which i used prior to relic and it was awesome.
    Thanks, always get them confused (and never did see that damn thing drop lol). As for the Darkshield Scutum, I purposely didn't include it since you've got to not only HQ it, but meld the hell out of it and given that cost you'd be better off just paying for a Titan kill and getting your relic.
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    Because the ones that do have both are the highest tier'd ones, IIRC. Up to 50, based on research I have done, you have to choose weather to go with Tower shields that have high blocking power with low frequency, or the paltas (bucklers, etc.), that have low strength but high frequency.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord_Zlatan View Post
    Because the ones that do have both are the highest tier'd ones, IIRC. Up to 50, based on research I have done, you have to choose weather to go with Tower shields that have high blocking power with low frequency, or the paltas (bucklers, etc.), that have low strength but high frequency.
    So to hijack this point, which is more important for lower level (20-30) dungeons, block rate or block strength. Which factor mitigates damage better for a low level tank and a questionable healer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldGeezer View Post
    So to hijack this point, which is more important for lower level (20-30) dungeons, block rate or block strength. Which factor mitigates damage better for a low level tank and a questionable healer.
    I usually level up in dungeons with my FC so I have tested out both. in the 20-40 range (Copperbell through Stone Vigil) I go with block rate. That is my personal preference. Being buffed with protect and stoneskin and decent gear (cavalry set) i like blocking more frequently. Some might call me a noob but I actually like it for Shield Swipe. So u get a block (mitigation) + a proc for more DPS. Block strength is nice, but its kind of redundant if you are stone skinned, protected, and generally healed pretty competently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord_Zlatan View Post
    I go with block rate. That is my personal preference. Being buffed with protect and stoneskin and decent gear (cavalry set) i like blocking more frequently. Some might call me a noob but I actually like it for Shield Swipe. So u get a block (mitigation) + a proc for more DPS. Block strength is nice, but its kind of redundant if you are stone skinned, protected, and generally healed pretty competently.
    On the notion of preferring higher block rate, later on you will get an ability that increases your block by 60%. Meaning you want to have high block str to take advantage of that higher block %. That being said once you hit 50 you won't have the option to decide. You'll just use what you get.

    GC shield
    i49 shield from Aurume Vale (I tanked Titan with this)
    i55 Darklight from WP
    Darksteel crafted
    Shield of the Crags (Titan drop: which I got about 5 minutes before relic.. kinda pointless)
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    Relic +1
    Allagan (sidegrade to relic +1)
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    ok that explains that but why is there a tower shield at lvl 50 with high blocking power and alittler high block rate that my lvl 42 i shouldnt have to jump straight to dark steel or relic
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    Quote Originally Posted by JerDaBear View Post
    ok that explains that but why is there a tower shield at lvl 50 with high blocking power and alittler high block rate that my lvl 42 i shouldnt have to jump straight to dark steel or relic
    Because there just aren't that many tower shields in the game.

    And honestly, Kite shields have several advantages over tower shields, same with hoplons.
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