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    Lethaltyrant's Avatar
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    Reallocating points recommendations

    I am a level 50 PLD i was thinking of reallocating my points around and was wondering what is a good what to allocate them. I know VIT is important and STR is to. I was thinking 75% of the points into VIT then 25% into STR, is this a good idea or like 60 40 or 70 30. Let me know.
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    Put it all into vit.
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    You dont think thats bad tho to be lacking completely in STR i mean for hate and stuff?
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    That is an interesting tohught, but no, the trade off between vitality and strength, judging from the wall of text math posts, does not appear to favor putting any points into strength currently.
    The survivability from putting points into vitality benefit you more as a tank than putting points into strength for blocking mitigation and enmity generation.
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    Ok i just worry about keeping hate of mages and other party members in Duty finder i mean i guess i can try and worst case i just redo it again i will try that approach first everything into VIT and see how a party fares with me.
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    Strength: Increases damage (and thus threat). Increases amount of damage avoided during block/parry.
    Vitality: Increases maximum HP.

    If you look only at the above, then STR and VIT both sound good. I'll ignore the others. However, you have to ask one crucial CRUCIAL question: "By how much?"

    VIT is easier to calculate. It's something close to 14 HP per VIT for lvl 50 PLD. I might be a little off, but not much. 30*14=420 HP. A well geared PLD currently is near 6k HP. 420/(6000-420) = 7.5% HP increase from 30 VIT. Bigger % if your gear isn't so good yet.

    STR is harder to calculate. But as you read around, the more common consensus is that 30 STR is pretty small effect. If you want agro, upgrade your weapon. Once you do, you won't have much agro problems.
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    Ok thank you i think for now i do have a decent weapon ill try this all VIT
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    Something to keep in mind...by the time you're really going to have to worry about losing aggro to a mage you're at the point there that weight is off your shoulders. It's no longer something YOU can control once they have a Relic+1 unless they cooperate and strictly focus on one target. Thankfully, unless you run into a complete idiot, they're not going to complain about pulling aggro on trash mobs since they're more than likely geared enough to take a hit or three without any issue.

    This is speaking in terms of farming runs such as AK. I've yet to have an issue with a DPS pulling aggro in an instance like Coil unless it's been a total screw up and something has gone horribly wrong.
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    Yeah, dump it all into VIT so that you can survive spike-damage. The higher strength and attack of endgame weapons/armour will offset what you're missing. STR effects also tier, whereas VIT does not; VIT provides a 1:1 direct benefit. Check out www.valk.dancing-mad.com if you want to see the actual parsed numbers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lethaltyrant View Post
    I am a level 50 PLD i was thinking of reallocating my points around and was wondering what is a good what to allocate them. I know VIT is important and STR is to. I was thinking 75% of the points into VIT then 25% into STR, is this a good idea or like 60 40 or 70 30. Let me know.
    My PLD at 50 had 15 points in Vit 15 in Strength. that served me well until i reached Titan... Titan is a survival fight, and the more HP you have the better, also remember that stoneskin blocks damage based on a percentage of you max HP, and regen ticks are also based on a percentage of your max HP. So i ended up changing all my points to Vit for that fight, now we are at Coils, and i have never looked back.
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