Why Was the Official Statement Ignored?

[snugBubz]

OP says that the players who were suspended and had the majority of their gil taken away are overreacting because they were left with their tools. Just make your fortune again guys! Stop overreacting. Gil doesn't even matter at end game!

Except that it does; repairs, much? Though, definitely repair bills have gone down, previously repairs took a ridiculous amount of gil, to which the player received no refund (to which I'm not saying they should.)

But, the main argument: what about the players' time? Does time mean nothing? Crafting, gathering, playing the game all equal time, non-refundable. Sure, I guess if you're immortal, who cares? Just amass your fortune again! But for players who have a definite life span, time is a very important thing. And taking away players' gil, ie. time, with no recompense except that some of their gil was RMT is wrong. SE's response is basically this, "We don't care about our customers' time." And these players should be upset.

[JonnyBigBoss]

It's clear that those whining about being banned did in-fact purchase gil but don't want to admit to it.

[Sixmp]

Dear people who got effected. You are not special snowflakes. You like the rest of us clicked Accept to the TOS. As most of you know from the other threads where the relevant part was posted more than once. You have no rights. You have nothing to complain about. You either accept it or you don't.

You Accepted it but now it has effected you, you now want to change your minds about it.
It doesn't matter how many threads you open, the TOS will not change. I know you spent time making said gil but that was called having fun playing a game you liked not paid work.

While i understand how it must be upsetting to a degree to lose a large quantity of pretend money and i do sympathize to a degree but that is all you will get.

Now i am not saying don't try and speak to SE, doing it here will not help you. You need to contact someone else.

[LloydShade]

OP says that the players who were suspended and had the majority of their gil taken away are overreacting because they were left with their tools. Just make your fortune again guys! Stop overreacting. Gil doesn't even matter at end game!

[...]SE's response is basically this, "We don't care about our customers' time." And these players should be upset.

Please do not confusion frustration and overreaction. Suspended players have all rights to be angered. Yet, the angered players are part of a very slim minority and the overwhelming majority of the players has been left intact even though SquareEnix missed people directly involved in RMT activities because of it. Hence the overreaction. That means SquareEnix managed to care enough in their customers to make sure most of them would be fine. Whatever they would have done, collateral damage was inevitable. Does SquareEnix deserve so much negativity because of a really restricted amount of individuals?

EDIT:

It wasn't just this forum for one, and every person that got their account back reported having their Gil divided by 100. That's pretty consistent. Also, heaven forbid SE actually put some effort into a real investigation when it's so much easier to just push a button and let some program do it, even though that would screw some players over. Who cares about them, though, right? I mean, they're just a minority, it's not like it will ever happen to you, right?

-SE is also a company that appears to not care how long it takes to do anything about something because bots reported teleport hacking 2 weeks to a month ago are still at it.

Regardless of how many angry players claim to have lost 99% of their gils, it still comes from an unreliable source and thus, can't be taken for granted. Otherwise, your argument becomes inconsistent. You are changing the subject and making personal attack against me.

[snugBubz]

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I do not see what's happening as an overreaction. It's justifiable. If I spent all my time on a crafting class from the get-go, just to be suspended and have most of my earnings taken away (which, by the way 99-90% of the earnings being RMT? Highly unlikely if you've been selling from items from EA-launch)? Of course SE deserves all the negativity they're getting! They obviously don't care about their players' time if they're investigating in this manner. It matters not that the wronged are a fraction of the playerbase.

Also: would be fine? Please explain. Because I don't see anything wrong with legitimately being market-savvy and saving your earnings.

[Divinemight]

Also: would be fine? Please explain. Because I don't see anything wrong with legitimately being market-savvy and saving your earnings.

Counterfiet currency is counterfeit. This is your memo: all gils invovled in RMT activites are counterfeit currency. In reality, any business receiving counterfeit currency is a loss they have to take.

[snugBubz]

Counterfiet currency is counterfeit. This is your memo: all gils invovled in RMT activites are counterfeit currency. In reality, any business receiving counterfeit currency is a loss they have to take.

Sure, take away the counterfeit. But it is highly unlikely that 99%-90% of the player's gil is counterfeit. That is the issue.

[WVUTrip]

Counterfiet currency is counterfeit. This is your memo: all gils invovled in RMT activites are counterfeit currency. In reality, any business receiving counterfeit currency is a loss they have to take.

Actually no it is not counterfeit. Counterfeit is fake money made to look like real money. RMT money is real money produced by the game. The RMT sites just set up bots to grind large stock piles of money or hack accounts to steal real Gil. In real life, you accept a loss because there are ways you can check if the money is counterfeit or not. In FFXIV you have no way to know if the Gil is produced by RMT or by a legit player. Also in real life there is insurance to protect you from things like this. Have not seen a Gil insurance salesman in FFXIV yet.


Oh and another thing. SE operates and manages the market boards in the game. They take a tax from you for the right to use the market boards. It is them who accepts the RMT money for an item then transfers this Gil to your retainer. This means it is there fault for accepting RMT Gil not the players. Just another reason this was such a horrible and heinous action by SE.

[Divinemight]

Actually no it is not counterfeit. Counterfeit is fake money made to look like real money. RMT money is real money produced by the game.

Official statement: all currency invovled in RMT are counterfeit.....
That is the rule of this vitrual gaming world set by its creator, the S/E

[WVUTrip]

Official statement: all currency invovled in RMT are counterfeit.....
That is the rule of this vitrual gaming world set by its creator, the S/E

If it was duped then thy are correct and it was counterfeit. The rest of my statement still stands though.