Is Idling Inapproriate Behavior for Dungeon Instances

[ProvidenceBreaker]

Some people don't actually AFK they check back in every once in a while to see the progression. If an idle kicker is implemented people will just come back every 5 minutes or whatever the time out is and move around and buff then go back to being afk. Vote kick is definitely something that has to be implemented for stuff like this.

There are plenty of ways to deter people from doing this without even going that far. The fact that the dungeon can be completed at all when someone is AFKing is a huge red flag. It's really bad design that could easily be fixed with minimal effort on the developer's part.

[Stryker]

I wouldn't necessarily say that's true. Sometimes having 1 person down happens due to DC's or just someone that isn't adequately geared. Having all the content impossible with 1 person down would probably kill the casual population, and make it incredibly difficult for others. If you think gear checks are bad now, they would be mandatory with that kind of system. Which isn't to say that isn't the direction that we're heading in now with the ilvl minimums.

A game has to have some leniency due to this factor and not punish the rest of the individuals. Vote kick in my opinion leaves the power to the people, allowing them to make the decision.

[Freakiie]

There are plenty of ways to deter people from doing this without even going that far. The fact that the dungeon can be completed at all when someone is AFKing is a huge red flag. It's really bad design that could easily be fixed with minimal effort on the developer's part.

If you'd implement forced checks (as that's the only way to really stop dungeons from being 6-7 manned by people way outgearing them) people are just gonna be bigger douchebags by making sure the party can't pass those forced checks.

No vote to kick simply doesn't work. Yes, vote to kick isn't foolproof either, but 1 guy being able to ruin it for the other 3/7 is a lot worse than 3/6-7 people ruining it for a single person.

[Swag]

I have never heard of an in-game GM doing anything in FF14.

The only official response I've ever seen about it is that (paraphrasing) players can play the game however they choose to.

In other words, it's not against the rules to AFK through instances.

[Kolaina]

i'm playing dps. it's our 4th attempt at the first boss in Qarn. i'm on my lvl 3x dragoon (main is 50 bard). have a lvl 50 synced dragoon in party. each attempt the synced dragoon dies first and each attempt i'm the last 1 to die. we finally beat the boss and the synced dragoon starts cussing me out. i'm fed up with this persons attitude so i tell him "good luck on last boss, afk". because i refuse to play and this synced 50 refuses to knock off the attitude they ask me to drop. hmmm, dps are a dime a dozen and i will easily be replaced with replenish ranks. that doesn't get my point across. i'll afk in dungeons, but not for a carry. not to gain rewards for work i did not do. but if someones attitude is out of control with no reason for it to be directed at me, i will take a stand

[Swag]

i'm playing dps. it's our 4th attempt at the first boss in Qarn. i'm on my lvl 3x dragoon (main is 50 bard). have a lvl 50 synced dragoon in party. each attempt the synced dragoon dies first and each attempt i'm the last 1 to die. we finally beat the boss and the synced dragoon starts cussing me out. i'm fed up with this persons attitude so i tell him "good luck on last boss, afk". because i refuse to play and this synced 50 refuses to knock off the attitude they ask me to drop. hmmm, dps are a dime a dozen and i will easily be replaced with replenish ranks. that doesn't get my point across. i'll afk in dungeons, but not for a carry. not to gain rewards for work i did not do. but if someones attitude is out of control with no reason for it to be directed at me, i will take a stand

Grow up.

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[Kolaina]

Grow up.

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the same can be said for the toxic community in this game

[Yurikitty]

If someone is being stupid and yelling at you, why be just as childish as them and afk? Why punish the other two players just because you got mad? You make a comment about the toxic community, and in the next breath proudly state that you became part of the problem by acting just like those you bash. Just leave! Who cares if you get a 15 minute debuff? It will help you cool down. Walk away from the game or something. People suck, but I wish people would stop adding to the problem.

[necrosis]

the same can be said for the toxic community in this game

And you are adding to it / fanning the flames.

[Kolaina]

and i stated during that instance i would continue once the slander stopped only for him to pursue further. as i did want the dungeon to gear up. i use dungeons to level primarily as i'm not a fan of the locusts that zerg farm fates. the problem people fail to see here is no matter what "solution" you try to get implemented in the game will never fix the community. whether its the minor occurences(sp?) like what i have done or the major ones like a person reaping the rewards for others work.