Scholars - missing the point

[Maku]

You can combat the steady to guard stupididty by using Obey. This works for everything on Selene but unfortunitally Eos will still spam Whispering. I am just hoping they fix the switching but I have learned to deal with it. I duo SCHd Titan last night and found it rather easy so personally I don't think the above order is correct. Should be WHM/SCH > WHM/WHM ≥ SCH/SCH

[DarkGhost368]

Life's so good when we have 1 WHM and 1 good SCH in the party. <3

If every SCH works on their micro-management skills, they'd make Eorzea a better place.

I wish I could.. problem is I have to choice between letting my fairy embrace on its own which is slower and less efficient then myself managing it, put it on obey and react to the random eos whispering dawn load blowing or put it on steady and constantly have to put it back on steady after pretty much any action wasting time that is better used using one of my other skills.

Then I can't even macro the pet skills to streamline the process..

[PiedPiper]

@ People complaining fairy comes off steady if you use embrace.... why are you using embrace manually? As was said on earlier pages of the threat, place your fairy correctly and you will never need to manually cast embrace. This also answers the whm apologist talking about how embrace staggers your gcd and requires extra button presses: no, it doesn't. Fairy should be placed correctly in which case she will auto-cast on correct targets full time.

@ Bene vs Lustrate: Bene is too slow. It suffers from the same problem hallowed ground does: both of these skills are delayed by the animation, meaning they aren't actually instant, they are a second or so slower than the button press. Lustrate, however, is actually instant. This alone makes it stronger. Bene's use isn't actually about full healing the target, its about preventing the next attack from killing the target. yes the full heal is nice, but the 20% to make them live long enough to cast on them is what maters. Also, lustrate being off gcd and up nearly all the time makes it much more useful. Bene is a 5 minute tool which has to be used sparingly, lustrate is a tool that's almost always available. If you play a lot of scholar and go back to whm, its easy to begin to feel like whm is painfully slow.

Experience: both healing relics, raiding through turn 4.

[DarkGhost368]

@ People complaining fairy comes off steady if you use embrace.... why are you using embrace manually? As was said on earlier pages of the threat, place your fairy correctly and you will never need to manually cast embrace.

One, sometimes I don't want to wait for the <80% (maybe 75%) for the fairy to decide hey its time to heal. Two, triage because some people are not as important as others in some circumstances. Three, split healing rather then having to reposition my fairy to heal say some ranged dps for maintenance heals I can just cast embrace on said dps and let said fairy make it work while keeping myself focused on the tank who is more likely to take spiked damage. Five, its my damn fairy I should be able to do what I want with her without having combat broken game mechanics.

Yes, fairy placement is very important, I still would like to have the amount of control that I desire and apparently some others as well.

[Kalakbar]

One, sometimes I don't want to wait for the <80% (maybe 75%) for the fairy to decide hey its time to heal. Two, triage because some people are not as important as others in some circumstances. Three, split healing rather then having to reposition my fairy to heal say some ranged dps for maintenance heals I can just cast embrace on said dps and let said fairy make it work while keeping myself focused on the tank who is more likely to take spiked damage. Five, its my damn fairy I should be able to do what I want with her without having combat broken game mechanics.

Yes, fairy placement is very important, I still would like to have the amount of control that I desire and apparently some others as well.

This, pretty much. Manually casting Embrace constantly also has the added benefit of higher uptime of the spell haste buff from your pet critting.

[Garnatian]

Life's so good when we have 1 WHM and 1 good SCH in the party. <3

If every SCH works on their micro-management skills, they'd make Eorzea a better place.

There's no such thing as "Micro-managing" your fairy. The most efficient way to use your fairy is to constantly hit Embrace through the entire fight in-between all your heals.

[YanDere]

WHM + SCH gives at least a good 50% of win probability than 2WHM or, worse, 2SCH.
The WHM heals HPs and casts Stoneskin at the beginning, SCH buffs either dps or heal to get the party to their maximum potential.
You can have a bad party and competent WHM+SCH and win a Titan HM run.

[Miiu]

Funfact: A competent player is always better than an incompetent one.
But it still doesn't change the fact that 2x whms > 2x sch.
As far as I understand what people want is the following:
2x whm = 2x sch but still underperform the 1x whm 1x sch combo and there is nothing wrong with that. Nobody wants the other class to be inferior.

[Hysterior]

4 man group: SCH > WHM
8 man group: WHM+SCH > WHM+WHM > SCH+SCH
that's how I see it

but I did SCH+SCH until Garuda with no problem
I cannot say about Titan though...

[Celsius]

I've finished turn 4 with SCH/SCH and it went amazing. we CAN aoe heal enrage and the tank heals are amazing with 2 sch's and 2 eos's it was pretty easy. dont underestimate SCH+SHC guys! just need to be coordinated