Page 7 of 11 FirstFirst ... 5 6 7 8 9 ... LastLast
Results 61 to 70 of 112

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Player
    Melithea's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Location
    Gridania
    Posts
    235
    Character
    Melithea Tinvelle
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Alu79 View Post
    Here we go...
    Contribute something or stop posting.

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkGhost368 View Post
    Really? because SCH's don't fill a "healer role" they fill the backseat healer role, obviously next to a whm.
    That's my point. SCH already have better damage mitigation and infinite MP. If you give them burst healing, they'll do literally everything that matters better than or equal to a WHM. Why the hell are we the only mage class without infinite MP, anyway? I want to redraw those straws.

    WHM/SCH > WHM/WHM > SCH/SCH

    It needs to stay this way. (And yes, I have both at 50)
    (1)

  2. #2
    Player
    Alu79's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Posts
    101
    Character
    Lusian Royalt
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Melithea View Post
    Contribute something or stop posting.



    That's my point. SCH already have better damage mitigation and infinite MP. If you give them burst healing, they'll do literally everything that matters better than or equal to a WHM. Why the hell are we the only mage class without infinite MP, anyway? I want to redraw those straws.

    WHM/SCH > WHM/WHM > SCH/SCH

    It needs to stay this way. (And yes, I have both at 50)
    Lol and there it is..
    (0)

  3. #3
    Player
    dragonflyseksparade's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    232
    Character
    Dragonfly Seksparade
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    If SE just added really bright flashing animations to represent shields, maybe scholars would then understand their role.
    (0)
    Primary Class: Green number maker
    Best WHM, NA
    twitch.tv/brown_diva

  4. #4
    Player
    Alu79's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Posts
    101
    Character
    Lusian Royalt
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by dragonflyseksparade View Post
    If SE just added really bright flashing animations to represent shields, maybe scholars would then understand their role.
    lol just keeps getting better and better..
    (0)

  5. #5
    Player
    Kalakbar's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2013
    Posts
    16
    Character
    Kal Akbar
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    A Scholar's class defining feature isn't the shielding that is attached to two of their heals--it's the faerie. Shields are part of the Scholar toolkit, just as Regen is part of the White Mage's toolkit. This isn't WoW where a Priest has tools like Spirit Shell or Power Word: Shield. A Scholar's role is healing, with shielding being part of that role.

    Which is better? That depends a great deal on the situation. In a raid, having both a SCH and a WHM is preferable, with each bringing different tools to the table. A White Mage has an easy time dealing with huge raidwide damage, while a Scholar is better able to support a tank who is getting hit for 2-3k every few seconds. You can certainly healing through AoE damage as a Scholar, just as a White Mage can keep up a tank taking heavy damage, but it will be harder and less MP efficient for you to do so.

    In short, stop bickering. Both are main healers who work very well together.
    (1)

  6. #6
    Player
    BrandoH's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Posts
    269
    Character
    Ketsu Wotaberu
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 70
    Life's so good when we have 1 WHM and 1 good SCH in the party. <3

    If every SCH works on their micro-management skills, they'd make Eorzea a better place.
    (0)

  7. #7
    Player
    DarkGhost368's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2013
    Posts
    12
    Character
    Jesal Ghost
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by BrandoH View Post
    Life's so good when we have 1 WHM and 1 good SCH in the party. <3

    If every SCH works on their micro-management skills, they'd make Eorzea a better place.
    I wish I could.. problem is I have to choice between letting my fairy embrace on its own which is slower and less efficient then myself managing it, put it on obey and react to the random eos whispering dawn load blowing or put it on steady and constantly have to put it back on steady after pretty much any action wasting time that is better used using one of my other skills.

    Then I can't even macro the pet skills to streamline the process..
    (0)

  8. #8
    Player
    Garnatian's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    534
    Character
    Gaust Euler
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by BrandoH View Post
    Life's so good when we have 1 WHM and 1 good SCH in the party. <3

    If every SCH works on their micro-management skills, they'd make Eorzea a better place.
    There's no such thing as "Micro-managing" your fairy. The most efficient way to use your fairy is to constantly hit Embrace through the entire fight in-between all your heals.
    (1)

  9. #9
    Player
    Maku's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    728
    Character
    Maku Haikasu
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 70
    You can combat the steady to guard stupididty by using Obey. This works for everything on Selene but unfortunitally Eos will still spam Whispering. I am just hoping they fix the switching but I have learned to deal with it. I duo SCHd Titan last night and found it rather easy so personally I don't think the above order is correct. Should be WHM/SCH > WHM/WHM ≥ SCH/SCH
    (0)
    可愛い悪魔

  10. #10
    Player
    PiedPiper's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Posts
    452
    Character
    Pied Piper
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 60
    @ People complaining fairy comes off steady if you use embrace.... why are you using embrace manually? As was said on earlier pages of the threat, place your fairy correctly and you will never need to manually cast embrace. This also answers the whm apologist talking about how embrace staggers your gcd and requires extra button presses: no, it doesn't. Fairy should be placed correctly in which case she will auto-cast on correct targets full time.

    @ Bene vs Lustrate: Bene is too slow. It suffers from the same problem hallowed ground does: both of these skills are delayed by the animation, meaning they aren't actually instant, they are a second or so slower than the button press. Lustrate, however, is actually instant. This alone makes it stronger. Bene's use isn't actually about full healing the target, its about preventing the next attack from killing the target. yes the full heal is nice, but the 20% to make them live long enough to cast on them is what maters. Also, lustrate being off gcd and up nearly all the time makes it much more useful. Bene is a 5 minute tool which has to be used sparingly, lustrate is a tool that's almost always available. If you play a lot of scholar and go back to whm, its easy to begin to feel like whm is painfully slow.

    Experience: both healing relics, raiding through turn 4.
    (0)
    Last edited by PiedPiper; 10-15-2013 at 11:13 PM.

Page 7 of 11 FirstFirst ... 5 6 7 8 9 ... LastLast