Scholars - missing the point

[Garnatian]

Right, I like how a fight favors dual sch... and yet whms aren't crying rivers of QQ about nerfing SCH tank healing...

No fight favours SCH+SCH because there is no synergy. Sacred Soil/Succor/Adloquim don't stack in any way.

[PiedPiper]

No fight favours SCH+SCH because there is no synergy. Sacred Soil/Succor/Adloquim don't stack in any way.

Pretty sure he was responding to my post about the binding coil turn 1 fight actually favoring two scholars. Which, it does.

[Amra]

I love controlling my fairy. I love how busy the scholar is as a class. Always doing something.

This is the appeal for me as well. The class has a nice high skill ceiling with lots to do. I love that I can remove a lot of the useless dps skills from my bar (or deprioritize their keybindings) in favor of more useful pet abilities.

I have two issues though:

1) Is there really no way to make your pet just shut up and listen to your commands instead of free casting whatever the heck it wants?

2) The support pet Embrace and healing pet embrace are two different abilities for whatever stupid reason, so if I switch pets on the fly i can't just continue with the same keybindings.

[Garnatian]

Pretty sure he was responding to my post about the binding coil turn 1 fight actually favoring two scholars. Which, it does.

Please tell me how the fight benefits at all from a double SCH.

[PiedPiper]

Please tell me how the fight benefits at all from a double SCH.

The fight is two big snakes pounding two different tanks int eh face. Sch excells at main tank healing. There is no raid damage. Since they are healing different targets, their buffs don't interract and thus don't conflict. Course that assumes you do the whole, split them up and tank them seperate method rather than kite.

[Kurokujo]

I stay away from using steady, and instead use obey. From what I've noticed the fairy will still autocast Embrace (which is fine with me because she almost always heals the target I want her to anyway) but won't use any of the cooldown abilities like whispering dawn. She will stay in obey mode until you change her out of it, but you have to have an enemy targeted to initiate it.

[Syncness]

The fight is two big snakes pounding two different tanks int eh face. Sch excells at main tank healing. There is no raid damage. Since they are healing different targets, their buffs don't interract and thus don't conflict. Course that assumes you do the whole, split them up and tank them seperate method rather than kite.

Wait what?

[Arale]

The fight is two big snakes pounding two different tanks int eh face. Sch excells at main tank healing. There is no raid damage. Since they are healing different targets, their buffs don't interract and thus don't conflict. Course that assumes you do the whole, split them up and tank them seperate method rather than kite.

Pretty sure WHM beats SCH in main tank healing. It's like people don't know Divine Seal is a thing. I pop that and my cure II's are making Lustrate look really, really bad. I pay for that in mana, but that plus Benediction allows me to keep up with heavy hits that Lustrate will not. Even if you have Lustrate, outside of that SCH lack raw healing power to keep up on excessive damage.

Just my 2c.

[Celsius]

Lol these WHM's think they are king of the hill. Just get over the fact that sch can tank heal better. we've done up to turn 4 with 2 sch's. and turn 1 DOES favor 2 sch's we dont let our tank get low to where we have to pop a huge cooldown and on the off-chance that they do (they dont) we have 3-6 lustrates ready to use plus the fact that its not a huge wwaste to use on someone other than a tank since we have them 3 times per 1 min. You dont beat us in Main tank healing lmfao. Not at all. i can pop rouse fey illumination and use phsyic for 1.4k physics and 800-900 fairy heals if we want to get technical. and that isnt counting crits AND the spell speed buff rofl.


Edit: forgot to add in the fact that i can also put her on steady again (this is annoying) and cast whispering dawn for a party wide regen effect. and there is certain places i can put her for her to only MT heal. WHM has that niche burst healing but sch is safer (this is coming from our tanks) i've done SCH/SCH WHM/SCH. WHM/SCH deff easier though. its not all about raw healing power if you like huge numbers go WHM. if you know what your doing, you can bring alot more to a raid (in terms of MT healing) than a whm can.

Its like People dont know divine seal only has a 33% uptime. you dont understand the concept of a scholar lmfao. you can make lustrate look bad? its an ability i use 3 times every one minute and usually use on a random dps that i dont feel like wasting a physick on. I want you to watch a video or a stream of a SCH/SCH doing titan. if they are any good the tanks wont go under 75%. and the sch's will be almost full HP.


Not gonna let you WHM elitsts take away the fact that SCH's do something way better than you. (granted they know what they are doing)

[Annana]

Scholars are incredibly useful as-is.

Sure, they could use some Quality of Life updates to pet control, but their healing capabilities are perfect as they are. Aside from the issue of stacking SCH shields, that is.